Finn - Don't listen to the Hyperbole

Rey was 6 years old when she was left on Jakku. How much training did she really have?

And do we even know that she was even there at the academy when Ben betrayed them all?
Given her age, that would indicate that about 15 years had passed. Kylo would have been quite young as well (a teenager).... certainly younger than the Kylo Ren in the vision.

 

I was, to be honest, a bit disappointed with Finn.
NOT because he was badly done (although I found him a bit too much of a comic relief), but because he was underutilized.

Fin had his own journey to go through. A journey to become a hero who finds something to fight for.
Have there been hints of FS? Dunno. I found it curious that Kylo knew right away which Stormtrooper had stepped out of line on Jakku and knew his number.

So, I am not giving up hope yet. I WANT FINN TO BE FS.
Now he has finished the first legt of his journey, from lost boy to man who knows what he is fighting for.
The man who faced Kylo in the end was not the scared little Stormi anymore.

And I find his Coma curious, too.

Finn, in my opinion, is not a born warrior. He’s a consular, a peace keeper, and I think this journey was the wrong one for him.

So far.
So please, PTB make him force sensitive.
That boy needs his own lightsaber

 

Exactly this. It also explains why Kylo knew immediately who the stormtrooper was the helped Poe break out.
Finn was amazing in the movie, he doesn't need force sensitivity to shine. It would actually be a bit too much for his character imo. He already goes trough so much.

And in the next movie I think we will see Rey train with Luke and Poe and Finn teaming more together in missions/battles.

 

I thought likewise, kylo sensed Finn and seemed focused on the "Traitor" at other points.

 

You believe Finn has the force? That he could become a Jedi? please tell me based off the movie

 

They'll tie for "best screen" at the Nickelodeon kids choice awards .

 

Why do you doubt that Ren would single out a conflicted stormtrooper? Finn was part of a military that demands uniformity and unquestioning service. So much so that we've not seen a rogue trooper to this point.

 

Interesting! I will keep a look out for this particular scene...So as soon as Finn has a crisis of conscience under extreme duress Kylo immediately looks at him?

 

Yeah I think people need to put the FS to bed. It's not happening.

 

Maybe it was just Kylo feeling Finn's gaze?

I'm fairly certain that at that point, the rest of the troopers had moved on, and Finn was literally frozen in shock, and staring at Kylo or at least in his direction. He may just see that and not think much of it... until the time when they learn that one of their own helped Poe to escape.

I think you're looking too hard into this.

Without other material to really support the theory, I'm going to remain in the non-sensitive camp.

 

Just to add to that, I'd say the impression I got was that he "had" worked in sanitation when he was stationed in Starkiller, which is a subtle difference.
But either way, Jakku is his first mission.

My two cents on him being force sensitive - I didn't get the impression he was, or that the story requires him to be moving forward to be honest.
I felt the scene where Finn lowers his weapon and chooses not to take part in the slaughter of the villagers was merely to show the audience Kylo Ren is aware of this, and aware of FN-2187. To me, that scene read as Kylo sensing Finn's fear and witnessing his treachery.

I think our expectations of Finn and Maz have been coloured somewhat by the MSW interpretation of the shooting schedule.
Maz knows the Force, and has the ability to read people... but she is not really part of some grand scheme. She is wise, and has wisdom to share, but she is not intended to be a surrogate Yoda for this movie, IMO.
The subtle difference between what we were expecting and what we got (possibly due to later Maz scenes being cut) is that the lightsaber is calling to Rey, and that is all that is going on with (what we thought was) the flashback.

When Rey has run off, Maz basically hands the lightsaber to Finn *to make sure he gives it to Rey*. As in, literally. Not any of this "she gives it to Finn because she knew destiny would mean Finn having the saber would bring it to Rey eventually" stuff. As the final cut stands, there is absolutely no feeling that Maz hands Finn the saber as if she is suggesting his fate is to become a Jedi and he should "have it" instead of Rey.

Finn initially uses the saber, because that is the only weapon he has available.
Finn's story arc is that he wants to run (at one point he almost leaves our heroes for good) and by the end of the movie he has vowed to go to Starkiller to save Rey. When he uses the saber for a second time, it is because he no longer wants to run - he chooses to take a stand against Kylo Ren. Again, the saber is in his hand.
He charges at Kylo Ren and takes the fight to him - the trailer edits made it look slightly different.

I'm still not sure why people seem to think you are down on the character if you suggest he is as straightforward as he comes across onscreen, to be honest. I enjoyed the part he played in the movie, and look forward to seeing him in the next installment.
Some people are describing him as a "comedy character" - to me he was just a character with a sense of humour who is "having a bad day," as he puts it.

 

Finn is very good with blasters as if he is using the Force.

 

They can easily make Finn force sensitive in episode 8, regardless of whether he is or isn't in episode 7.
Seriously, if they want to go that route, they can no problem at all.
He improves his abilities as the movie progresses (fight against stormtrooper to fight with Kylo Ren) and his backstory shows us he has been improving before the movie too (sanitation department to strike team department)
Leia wasn't force sensitive in ANH.

 

The novelisation seems to be a bit kinder towards Finn. A bigger deal is made out of the fact that Maz gives Finn the lightsaber rather than Han or Chewie, and it says that "It felt comfortable in his hand" suggesting that he does belong with a lightsaber. Later while he's fighting with it it says:

"Despite lack of any training with a lightsaber, Finn was athletic and courageous. In tandem with such traits, the saber made him a formidable fighter."

Maz also talks to him after the battle, in a scene that isn't in the movie and say that she see the eyes of a warrior in him now. Even if he isn't a Jedi now, it definitely seems to imply that he might become one in the future.

 

WAIT HOLY blast REALLY?!?!?!?!??!
I need to read this now

 

The novel sound like its a million times better than the movie just like revenge of the with.