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RUMOR Flashbacks, Yes or No?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Voxx, Feb 24, 2015.

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Should there be flashbacks?

  1. Yes, there should be!

    8.1%
  2. No, there shouldn't!

    21.0%
  3. Force Visions/Hologram recordings only!

    45.2%
  4. I don't really care either way.

    25.8%
  1. Voxx

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    With all the rumors about flashbacks being thrown about, I wanted to start a thread addressing flashbacks and their place in Star Wars movies.

    Do you think Flashbacks are okay for Star Wars? If so, why? If not, why?

    What about Force Visions or memories?
    Hologram projections?
     
    #1 Voxx, Feb 24, 2015
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    if they were to do a flashback thats the way the would do it...well maybe not a hologram. I don't want any home movies playing through the hologram that would be weird. lol
     
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    But the flashback is a Force Vision Voxx, I don't know what to do haha
     
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    That's why I said it doesn't include "Force Visons."
     
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    What are your reasonings? Only reason not to would be because they haven't been done in SW before. For me it doesn't make it any less Star Wars and if it makes sense to use them and adds to the whole experience, why not.

    The same can be said for style of directing or shots. Should they use slow motion for fight scenes or significant moments? Should they shoot the Millenium Falcon air combat chase style (per the trailer). Should they treat colors a little differently than in the past? Should they use IMAX? I think as long it creates a more powerful experience, and they're not using these tricks for the sake of using them then I don't see the issue.
     
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    well...even we are not best buddys Voxx, im with u about this topic...flashbacks need to stay out of SW...
     
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    Flashbacks are always the inevitable of what will happen in the movie, if a vision does not come to pass it will carry over to the rest of the trilogy, holograms don't concern me much because the viewer can delete it, a vision you cannot forget.
     
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    It makes me a bit nervous to see how these are portrayed. Holograms or even something on a screen is one thing. Star Trek 2009 or Christopher Nolan style flashbacks is another entirely. I'm all for a new Star Wars story, but I think the packaging should be familiar.
     
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    I mentioned before in the article with the flashback/force vision there is also reference of a possible time hop ala Star Trek (2009).

    A force vision done in a way where we still see the character telling it and it appears sort of like a more realistic hologram (that's the best I can describe what I mean) could be cool.

    As for an opening sequence then time hop to the present...call me a dinosaur or whatever for SW traditions but I feel like that's one too many elements not used in SW being used. Star Trek was a reboot this is a continuation of the story we all know and love.

    I'm all for hologram messages and what not. Vintage ones would be cool and realistic.
     
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    Hologram messages are fine as they've been done throughout the movies already. I can see a force vision if it's vague and not too detailed.

    But outright flashbacks? No thanks. It doesn't fit with the narrative rules already established by the previous six movies. I want them to stick to all the structure and rules already in place.
     
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    Like a storytelling? That's what I presumed this was and I wouldn't like that. And in Star Trek 09 how it started with Kirk's birth, then Kirk's childhood, etc, I wouldn't like that either as this is Star Wars, and none of the other movies did it this way. Why fix something that isn't broken?
     
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    Exactly with the time hop. I just came to a realization that what I'm talking about is sort of already in SW it's just lacking the visual. The scene from ROTJ but with a vision appearing as well. I could do without it BUT it's better than a regular old flashback.

     
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    Yeah I still wouldn't like that. It would seem too Lord of the Rings to me.
     
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    Yeah like I said I could do without it but if we had that instead of a plain old flashback it wouldn't bother me as much. I'd rather we stick to the standard SW code of story telling.
     
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    I can live with flashbacks as exposition ....... BUT what I could not stand is any of the main core of characters to be present in the flashback but played by different actors !

    For me this would be a total disconnect moment !
     
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    Im not against it being used if used properly and in a good and reasonable way.
     
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    I am still thinking R2's memory is getting hacked.

    That little droid is full of precious information...

    Including what happened in between ROTJ and TFA.... and young Leia.
     
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    But I think this is not a matter of if we like Flashbacks or not: is rather a matter of what type of screenwriting and storytelling style are they going to use for this movie. And again, both JJ and Kasdam have styles closer to Spielberg and that school, where he tells the story through objects and character relationship and development. So I would think they would take more this approach instead of flashbacks. JJ maybe used some time hop thing for Star Trek, but that was at the beginning of the movie, as a way of re-setting the franchise. This is totally different: we´re in a new installment, not resetting Star Wars, and this is not an origin story per se.

    I´m sure JJ is approaching more of the Spielberg style, as he´s fan of it, it fits very well SW and he knows how to do it properly (like in Super 8)

    To be honest, it seems something more of fan fiction to recall flashbacks every where. I believe we´re not going to see many flashbacks, specially due to the approach in the storytelling this guys are getting.

    And look, at the end of the day, every one from the cast and crew has stated this movie is going to be great (I know they´re not going to be around saying is a BS film), but still, it seems, for the people involved in this, that things are going to be logical, fun and fine with us fans and with the rest of the viewers. We´re just trying to find too many gimmicks. I hardly believe this movie is going to turn the way it´s being portrayed lately, specially due to the MSW "leaks"
     
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    I don't like flashbacks for several reasons:

    1. It's lazy storytelling. Make the dialogue and story strong enough so we don't need it.

    ***also it's especially lazy in a Star Wars movie where we have a crawl that can help fill in the blanks***

    2. I always felt the point of having these episodes take place years apart from each other was to leave gaps for later. They can be filled in by books, games, TV, stand alone movies now...or even our own imagination.

    3. Id rather keep the story moving forward not stuck in the past.

    4. Like @Link Voxx @sbs87 said, why fix something that's not broken? It would take me out of the Star Wars storytelling world I'm used to and it would probably be the first time I would feel that it's a different movie now. And like @It's a Trap ! said, using other actors to play younger versions of the big 3 is a terrible idea.
     
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    Depends on the reason for the flashback.
    Does it bridge time,place or action to reveal information, character or move the story forward? If so then I don't have a problem with it.

    If it does none of the above the then it will be a waste of screentime.
     
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