RUMOR General Star Wars: The Force Awakens News & Rumors Thread

And then it actually turns out being exactly how MSW had said...

 

is it this week the new teaser trailer will be released?

 

According to @Viral Hide it's next week... but basically a little under a week exactly. We probably should have watched it a hundred times a week from now.

 

Something that just occurred to me about the possible disappearance of Luke. That idea actually fits luke as a character since he has done it before. Luke does just disappear and he doesn't tell people where he is going. No one outside of R2 knew about Degobah. Luke didn't tell Han or anyone he was headed there the first time. He didn't have a bunch of time in Empire, but he could have said to Han or Leia that he found some information about a Jedi master on Degobah and he was going to go check to see if it were real. He had no idea how long he would have been there. Had he not had the vision during his exercises he may have been there years training. In Jedi he still doesn't tell them where he is going just that he will meet them back at the fleet. Although his intent is to only be there for a little while. What if this where is Luke Skywalker thing is a similar situation. No one has seen Luke because he went off in search of more Jedi training whether that be holocrons or others. We all assume that something bad happen to Luke or he is in exile, but maybe it is not he is exile, but on a spiritual journey again....

 

The problem with that is that it makes Luke look foolish or apathetic to not have contacted his sister to check up on the state of things after all this time, or given her a way of contacting him. What if he is needed to fight a new Dark Side threat, which he clearly is!? There has to be a bigger reason that they can't find him than a simple spiritual journey.

 

Wouldn't say foolish or Apathetic really. Selfish? possibly. However, It's about a bigger picture and becoming the Jedi he needed to be. Although Luke cared for his friends and the rebel cause he went to Yoda for training not knowing how long he would be trained. Not knowing if he would even find the person he was looking for. What drove Luke in the OT was this overwhelming sense of need to become a Jedi like his Father. It wasn't to become a Jedi to defend the galaxy or save the rebel cause. It was to simply become a Jedi like his father. The outcome of Luke becoming a Jedi was that he did save the Rebels by defeating Vader and then vader turning on the emperor and ultimately killing the emperor. But in all honesty the people who were responsible for saving the rebels were those with wedge and Lando.

Back to Luke for a moment. It was selfish that Luke would go to face Vader instead of going with the rest of the rebels to the shield generator. Now, Luke felt like he was endangering the mission by being part of it, but I would actually argue that luke leaving put them in more danger becuase now Luke was no longer with them to help and protect them. Luke did what he felt like was right and what he needed to do.

As to why his sister and close friends don't know where he is. Spritual journeys are sometimes isolated and not shared with loved ones. I know a couple people who have gone to east India or Asia on spiritual journeys and family just knows that they went on their spirit quest. They don't know exactly where they are just that they are going in a general direction. Some of these journeys that I know of lasted years with little to no contact with their family. They were driven by something that most of us would never understand.

 

So far separate movie chains have listed the movie at 130mins, 136mins, and now here- 143mins.

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Although, IMDB has it at 136mins. But IMDB information can be edited by just about anyone.

 

Thats with and without the trailer

 

He also put them in danger once, maybe he doesn't want to do it again. I love your idea

 

I assume that luke will be found once a strong force sensitive touched the Anakin/luke sabre hilt.....perhaps why it ends up with Leia as she would be the most atuned to him......and then it is passed over to Rey to seek him out.

 

But we are talking about a difference between a young Luke trying to become a Jedi by going where Ben told him to go verses a post ROTJ Luke that is already a Jedi. The people you are talking about don't have the responsibility that Luke does. They aren't the last Jedi who is possibly the only chance to stop a new Dark Side threat against the Galaxy. It IS foolish for Luke to not be aware of the needs of those he loves and the Galaxy as a whole. The Luke you are talking about is one who is ignoring a great threat against the Galaxy on the hopes of being more spiritual. By the time he attains what he is looking for, the Galaxy could be doomed. This isn't a Luke that I would care about in the least.

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But that is a Luke in self imposed exile who is afraid of what his presence would bring about, not one just searching for spiritual growth. The Luke you are talking about is the one I am talking about. He believes that he has brought about bad things for the ones he loves and has become a hermit. He may be on a spiritual journey, but it is due to bad things happening between ROTJ and TFA and he may be waiting for the Force to bring someone to him.

 

Respectfully disagree, by spiritual I think of more adept in the force and by extension his ability to any handle new threat that may arise. I think this idea adds the mythology of Luke and opens cannon up to wealth on new stories about him while on sojourn.

 

From what I understand prior to TFA we have a truce of sorts between the remnant of the empire and the Rebels / New republic. They have not been constantly fighting for the whole 30 years. Perhaps at that time being that they had peace and Luke didn't sense a dark side threat he went on this journey. Let's suppose that the Knights of Ren and Snoke coming out of the shadows along with the First Order is a recent development. One that most of the galaxy doesn't know about it. This would make sense that they don't know where Luke is and are in need of finding him.

Your point of view assumes that Luke would need to leave while there is still a legitimate threat. Mine assumes that there was no threat at the time that he left.

 

If there is no threat it makes even more sense to me that he would leave. Although I must admit it's too hard to even debate without knowing context. I simply liked the idea presented.

 

That says only one thing, lets have fun with the fans.

 

"...by spiritual I think of more adept in the force and by extension his ability to any handle new threat that may arise." How does ignoring, or being unaware of, the current threat make him more prepared? Why not check in with Leia or give her a way to contact him to make sure the Galaxy isn't doomed!? How about telling her that he knows of the threat and is working on something that could stop it?

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I'm not assuming he leaves during a threat. I'm assuming he didn't give them his cell number... A good Jedi should be smart enough to check in on how things are going with that whole "peace and justice" thing.

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Leave, yes. Give them no way to contact him if he is needed and never check in, no.

 

This assumes he "should" be checking in.

Perhaps he shouldnt be checking and he is aware of it. He is following the will of the Force as it leads the characters and the story to him. Much like Yoda did. And perhaps this isnt too far off if we believe that Maz Kanata can see how to allow the future to come about by putting the saber in Finn's hands.

I think it is safe to say that Luke has an answer to whatever action he takes as each action is thoughtful for a Jedi by their very nature.

 

You are also assuming that Luke is taking no action by this spiritual journey (if there is one). It's entirely possible that Luke is waiting until the threat is fully revealed. Drawing this threat out into the light. Other people may feel like they need him right now, but maybe he feels the timing is not right.