General Star Wars - The Rise of Skywalker News and Rumors Thread

That would go against all the canon so far. As of Bloodline (six years before TFA), Han and Leia are still together, their relationship solid and its entirety pretty mapped out, while they were often separated due to their jobs, they are still not estranged. And even when separated, when Leia needs him, Han drops everything and comes to her. Only when they learn of Ben's fall they become estranged. Leia was never trained by Luke save the bare minimum (also described in this book). There are several sources (books, etc.) that clearly state Lei thought Luke's path isn't hers and preferred public service. That would also mean that Leia, a major player in the New Republic, disappeared for a few years. I think the rumor is a big pile of steaming bantha poodoo.

 

I haven't read the books, so I'm starting to get fuzzy on the timelines. I thought Han and Leia never split until Ben went dark? He had been with Luke, so while he was away from his parents, they were still together.
If Bloodline is TFA -6 years, there's no way this rumor fits with canon. What am I missing?

 

In the Aftermath, Leia meditates how 'Luke had taught her' or something along those lines. He is already gone and already taught her. It is the bare minimum and as of TLJ (including both film and novelization) she is still at that level, can feel people she knows through the Force, Force pull, etc. I can't search every book now, but I am positive that there is a place where Leia decided not to follow his footsteps in anything more serious.

Not to mention that this would make Han and Leia even worse parents then they already seem to a part of fandom: they separated, one went to learn the Force, other to chase chicks (one of which he knocked up) and both LEFT THEIR KID ALONE AND LET HIM LEARN ABOUT THEIR SCREW-UPS. They can be flawed and they already are, but this is some 'filthy junk traders' level.

I am and have always been pretty open about possibilities, but this one is stupid, shortsighted and cruel to ALL THE CHARACTERS. I hope people at LFL are smarter and more insightful than that.

And just think what fandom would look like on December 21st? A good portion of it still cannot accept that Luke was tempted by the Dark Side, because he managed to reject it once. Han is not just a scoundrel, but a cheater, and Leia is the worst mother ever? Fandom would implode.

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You are right, but the rumor claims earlier separation as in they separated and got back together during which Han made Rey to somebody else. Basically...

 

Why shouldn't Bloodline be in the picture? If it's part of canon, it's connected, no matter the distance. Honestly, I have no real issue with the movies overwriting whatever printed in a book, game or show.
Likewise, there is a lot of missing information on the OT heroes in the new canon, because it all includes Kylo, so I'm not going to rule things out simply because "it said in the book this happened then."
... But I am skeptical of what we've seen on film.

In TFA, it's implied (or inferred) if not not outright said, that the reason Han and Leia split was because of what was going on Ben. If Han had cheated on her, don't you think she would have learned that? That would have certainly caused a few more issues on top of everything. They don't behave like there was anything else beyond Ben's fall that lead to their split.

And just because there's no evidence to say that they didn't have a "perfect marriage" isn't evidence against it. There is plenty of evidence that it was rocky, based off of TFA, and I'm assuming Bloodline as well. But the issues with Ben stemming from the fact that Han had a secret love child would play out very, very differently if Luke and Leia knew. There's no way the two of them would be blaming themselves for Ben's fall if Han was a key factor in that way.

It is absolutely not in character. Perhaps in the time between Solo and ANH, but he has this thing called "character progression." Remember, he's the scoundrel who came back for people he had only known for a few hours. That's totally someone who would have an affair while in a marriage.

 

Sure, but Han and Leia's interactions in the book would have been evident that there was something off.

Yeah, I always thought that was off. But honestly, there's no way a troubled kid (or young adult) would have kept that information to himself.

Sure, it's definitely a good reason why Ben would hold that against his father. I don't think I've met or read of anyone who hasn't had that reaction toward a parent when that has happened.

I doubt it, because it is really freaking stupid and no one in their right mind would write such nonsense. If Han did have an affair, it would have really messed with him. There is no way he could just saunter off and do whatever. It is foundational to the character that he does the right thing no matter how much his own desire persuades him. An affair is something far worse than leaving the Rebels at Hoth. There is no way a selfish act (no matter how inebriated he was) could have occurred for the character of Han Solo post A New Hope.

 

You're down playing the effect affairs have. It's not merely "a bump in the road."

If he didn't want to hurt is mother... Yeah, that's beyond me. If he didn't want to hurt her, his other actions get more confusing than they already are.

Haha, I never said Han was Christ like after ANH! I said there is progression and growth away from the strong selfish desires that he usually followed. That by no means makes the claim that he is perfect. I am saying however, that an affair is a gross exaggeration of "not being 'perfect'" and is absolutely rubbish writing.

If it is true that Han and Leia had a previous falling out, then we would see the evidence for that in the final cuts of TFA and TLJ. If they had a falling out, then it creates a much more convoluted backstory. That's not gonna fly with the general audience, and expect bigger backlash than that of TLJ.

And it's rubbish storytelling.