Gina Carano Sues Disney and Lucasfilm Over Wrongful Termination, Lawsuit Funded by Elon Musk

Here's another: Abraham Lincoln and Donald Trump were both American Presidents.

 

Nobody's is claiming that being president is a recent invention or trend.

 

Nope, but this idea people getting pushback for their speech is some kind of new phenomenon is rather silly. History is littered with people losing their jobs, sponsorships, ad revenue.... for the things they said.

Alas, it seems you did not. Also, this idea that other actors were posting like Gina is completely detached from reality. Gina was constantly posting divisive stuff on Twitter. Her tweets had received negative publicity on numerous occasions.

 

I don't know that. And, I did say that Disney agreed with Pedro's offensive statements. So, Disney wouldn't be likely to call Pedro in to address comments that they agree with.

What I'm saying is that Pedro's comments offended millions of Americans, and likely others. Now, Disney may have its own code of conduct, and maybe Gina being conservative violated it, and someone internally complained. I don't know if that's the circumstance or not. Was this based on offending Disney employees or the public?

It seems to be that if you're liberal and offend people, that's ok, because Disney is liberal. But if you're conservative and offend people, that's not allowed because Disney is liberal.

I'd also add the Pedro is the star of the show, and Gina was not. That also holds some sway, I'm sure.

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I'd have to hear the details of these meetings, but she's claiming they were excessive. She used the words "constant meetings". It almost sounds like a passive aggressive attempt to get her to quit. That's pure speculation though. I can imagine having to attend multiple meetings that felt like re-education sessions was probably pretty frustrating and insulting.

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That is definitely apples and oranges. Tim and Disney have a long, successful relationship. Gina didn't have anything like that. Casting anyone other than Tim in a Santa Clause movie/show would meet intense resistance. Disney probably keeps Tim around because they love money more than they care about appeasing their liberal fanbase.

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She was constantly talking about every divisive issue imaginable over the course of a couple of years? That sounds exaggerated. Can you show any proof of that?

 

Google is your friend. I'm not sure why you're arguing about this if you don't know the basic details about what happened. Pedro hasn't been consistently publicized for divisive social media so bringing him up just obfuscate the issue with attempted "whataboutism." Heck, the only people who probably know about it are the perpetually outraged, "politics in everything crowd".

This is just silly. It goes like this... if you're in family entertainment don't make news for your inane opinions about divisive issues. It doesn't matter what those politics are... there's plenty of examples of liberals losing jobs lately for their comments on Hamas.

 

You don’t know that Disney agreed with his statements and you don’t know that millions were offended.

That’s all pure speculation on top of speculation. And contradicts her complaint that her refusal to attend further meetings with fellow employees preceded her “termination”. If Disney wanted to punish Carano for being conservative they could have just not hired her in the first place.

Employees are the public too, and vice versa, by the way. That’s pretty important.

 

I think we can all come to the conclusion that Disney aren't very nice to work for!

 

You can only speak for yourself.

 

Additionally, it shouldn't go without saying the vast difference in Pedro's comments vs Gina's. Pedro made a statement, as a Latino immigrant regarding the cruel treatment of Latino immigrants by the "Administration". He made a valid and verifiable historic reference. He spoke about factual events and his feelings about them.
Gina made a series of conspiracy theory buzzword-laden statements that were discriminatory and offensive to several groups of society, not to mention that they were misinformation at best and blatant political propaganda at worst. Her comments went against the Disney Culture and like it or not, that will draw disciplinary action from ANY ethical employer. She could have apologized, done the dance and survived the storm, but she doubled down and launched into the atypical right-wing extremist tactics of whataboutisms and playing the part of victim.

A politically tinged statement regarding a serious and much talked about human rights issue is in no way akin to the blatant and irresponsible pushing of misinformation and hate speech.

 

THIS!!! ^^^^^

 

No, in fact it's gotten worse which is difficult to believe. After losing the Mando gig she has leaned even heavier into politics and faux outrage groups. It's sad, seems like she's just been steered in the wrong direction.

 

Someone on Twitter pointed out the irony that she wants a job back from the same company she spent bashing. Like I posted above she's broke and a a narcissist.

 

Right. It just goes further to show that Disney is not the only studio that avoids dumpster fires. If I'm not mistaken, and I cannot be bothered to confirm it, but the only "project" she has worked on since Mando was something involving Ben Shapiro, so.... Like so many misguided individuals, Carano has set her own course and taken a huge bet that taking these positions will somehow win out. Not looking good though, and you gotta hold out hope that compassion, basic decency and common sense will win in the end.

 

I think she thought that someone with her views would be willing to take her on. But even if there are people who sympathize with her views. The fact that she has demonstrated herself to be a trouble maker who is difficult to work with , will prevent her from getting work. What I don't understand is how she can have reached the age of 40 years old and not learned that lesson. I learned it quickly shortly after I started working full time. Likeability often trumps competence or skill.

 

Pedro compared Trump supporters to both Confederates and Nazis. Trump has millions of supporters. Safe to say they were offended. It's common knowledge that Disney leans heavily left, and Pedro didn't get fired, so the conclusion is that Disney agreed with his statement.

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I'm not the one making the claim that Gina was constantly making divisive comments all day, every day about every subject imaginable. I think if you're going to accuse someone of something, you should be able to prove it. Google is my friend? It's yours too. The burden of proof is on you, not me. I did, in fact google this and only found a hand full of comments related this. I wasn't able to find the extreme volume of offensive comments that she's been accused of here. If you, or someone else believes this horde of comments exists, let's see it.

Gina's comments may be offensive to someone who disagrees with her, but to others they're not. I don't think anything she said can be objectively offensive. You make it sound like Pedro's Nazi comparison (Pedro compared Trump supporters to Confederates and Nazis) is just plain old common sense, but Gina's comments are objectively offensive. Depends on your beliefs.

 

"Conclusion" and "obviously" are having to do a lot of work on their own to keep the equivalency and "whataboutery" in the air. And still reliant on speculation that because Pedro wasn't fired for what said that there is an obvious double standard. But Gina wasn't fired for what she said either.

 

By comparison, however, Chuck Wendig was fired (from Marvel's SW projects) for what he twittered... that is, for slagging off the GOP.

Of course, there was no kind of outrage over that from the freedom of speech absolutists and such.

 

If Carano were to somehow be successful with this suit ( ) , it would set a precedent for people being awarded things they weren't entitled to on the theoretical basis that being unpopular denied them it. And being rewarded but not by doing what it takes to earn it simply because you declare that what it takes is "excessive". What kind of court is going to legislate that kind of gobbledygook?

 

My point is that Tim Allen wasn't making crazy conspiracy theory comments, and neither was Pedro.