Had He Kept Lucasfilm George Lucas Would Have Made Three More Films Further Explaining the Nature of the Force

He's meaning that they inhabit the same planetary environment and are meant to work together for mutual benefit. He's talking about the impact that the Trade Federation incursion will have on this system. Which is the result, they don't work with the Naboo and so they suffer the same fate and have to flee their home. Then at the end they work together and restore the system by way of a mutually benefiting relationship.

Life couldn't exist without a lot of things. He's not meaning the midi-chlorians are the beginning of all life, and the sole contributer by way of abiogenesis any more than saying, life couldn't exist without amino acids, is a claim that amino acids are the only thing needed for the existence of life. But he is saying that they are crucial to life just as many things are.

Because "life" is a quality that every lifeform has in equal measure, and it's not a symbiosis between life and the Jedi. It doesn't facilitate the analogy needed for a symbiotic relationship. When you say "between life and the force" you're directing the relationship back to the force and away from the Jedi which is what I was saying was being misunderstood, so it's not the same message, it is the opposite of the message.

 

Yeah, you see, that’s not actually a symbiotic relationship though. This would be like me claiming my neighbor (let’s call him Fred) and I are symbionts because we happen to live on the same street (where it’s apparently totally optional to mow your lawn or not, Fred). Sure, if that street were to be completely trashed overnight (industrious beavers or whatever), we’d both be affected. I wouldn’t be able to drive to work and Fred wouldn’t be able to sell methamphetamines (or whatever he does for a living, I’ve never asked).

But that’s just a product of happenstance. We don’t have a mutually beneficial dependency on one another. Fred, and his terrific moustache, could disappear tomorrow and my life wouldn’t be affected in the slightest. I’d see fewer jean shorts on the regular, I suppose.

TPM didn’t present any sort of connection between the Naboo and the Gungans, beneficial or otherwise. They just both happen to be on the same planet. If Theed were to suddenly evaporate without a trace, the Gungans maybe wouldn’t even notice. That’s not a symbiosis by any definition. That’s just someone misusing a word in the hopes it will elicit a favorable reaction.

Hey, fair enough

The Jedi are never presented in the capacity you’re proposing though. Their role is to interpret the will of the Force for the galaxy? What is it saying via the midi-chlorians that is or isn’t being communicated then? What example can you provide that supports that interpretation? They’re established as peace keepers within the Republic that maintain order as a means of perpetuating galactic harmony.

The Force is created by life. That’s an A/B correlation. The Force, in turn, then reciprocally affects life (penetrates, surrounds, binds the galaxy together). A change in nature of one directly affects the other. If one struggles, the other struggles. If one thrives, the other thrives. That's a symbiosis.

The Jedi, existing as a means of preserving that equilibrium, makes decent enough sense to me. That they unwittingly undermine that utility by propagating strife and discord with galactic war, is the tragedy of the prequels. I don’t see the midi-chlorians in an analogous function to that. They’re simply a superfluous element for me. An answer to a question that was never asked. But to each their own

 

I can't say I read it and went wow I wish he had done that, its difficult to picture how it would have worked in the star wars universe. I mean would the Whills actually have been characters?

Still, as a science fiction Idea, I wouldn't mind watching a film based on this idea. A Star Wars film? I dunno it certainly would have been a change of direction.

 

Regarding Lucas' revelations about where he would've taken the Force-based mythology with his canceled ST, I can't really judge his ideas as good or bad because, simply put, I haven't seen them in action or played out in story-form. The only way to know if this kind of approach would've been effective is to see how it would impact the characters involved, and how their struggle would play out around it.

I'm one of the few who really, really enjoyed the Mortis Episodes of TCW, but I don't think I would've enjoyed it nearly as much as I did if it didn't so effectively utilize the characters of Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Ahsoka. Those three characters, Anakin especially, received excellent scenarios through their interaction with The Ones, and made watching that cluster of episodes an experience of wonderment and excitement. And that's down specifically to the effective writing of their characters, and the implementation of the Mortis revelations to the Force-based mythology. It was a successful blend of both characters and mythos, and that's why it worked. For this new Whills-based Approach that Lucas was planning, I have no idea if it would've made for a good story idea because I haven't seen the likes of Kira, the Jedi-Killer, Luke, Sam Solo or the other planned characters of Lucas' ST interact with it. I don't know how this journey, or how these mythological revelations would've shaped their characters---how they would've interacted, how it would've molded them, how it would've played into their emotions and foils as people, as Mortis very effectively did with the Clone Wars Trio. Moreover, I don't know how well the integration of the mythology to the Star Wars Universe would've worked---part of what made Mortis work was the storytelling methods of both Dave Filoni and the team of showriters for TCW. They made Mortis a convincing aspect of Star Wars, to me at least, due to how carefully they wrote it and how they managed to work in Anakin's role as the Chosen One into it. Planning and character utilization gave the Mortis Arc legitimacy, and prevented it from coming of as hokey or forced.

And whether or not Lucas' plans for expanding for the mythology would've really depended on factors like writing and characters, the quality for both of which would entirely rely on him, and whatever writers he would've been theoretically working with.

Honestly, knowing Lucas and his habit of putting his own ideas first at the expense of other pre-established components of the Star Wars Universe, I have my suspicions that this new story development would've likely contradicted with Mortis and The Ones. And that would undermine a huge part of why I like TCW.

My stance on any kind of ST is still the same as it was post-2005. Lucas-made or Disney, either one would've retconned the entire post-ROTJ EU, which I never wanted. Star Wars never needed any kind of ST, in my opinion...I was very much content with it staying in the realm of novels, comics, games, and TV Shows that were rooted in the EU continuity. And while I'm 99.9% sure that whatever Lucas was planning would largely be of infinitely superior quality to the ST tripe we're currently getting, it still would've thrown the EU under the bus.

So I'm glad none of this ever saw fruition, it's because I think it would've made for a poor story, or that it would've destroyed Star Wars mythologically. It's for the same reason I was lukewarm about a Lucas-made ST to begin with: I preferred the off-screen mythos and continuity that was already there.

 

The midichlorians are so misunderstood by the fan base!

The Force isn't meant to be measured, it's meant to be felt. The audience intuitively understood this, and they rejected the idea of putting a "count" on Force sensitivity or Force abilities. Then the audience got mad at George Lucas, without realizing the reason George included them in the story.

The Jedi were falling. The revelation that each Jedi had a Force "number", and that Anakin's was higher than Yoda's, was supposed to clue the audience in that the Jedi were losing their connection with the Force in exchange for a scholarly understanding of it. It was supposed to be a subtle red flag for the audience, a warning that the Jedi were trying to categorize and control the Force, instead of letting the Force flow through them.

It was a great example of subtle, understated storytelling. And it went over our heads so we crucified George Lucas, accusing him of not understanding the Force.

 

I absolutely don't go for the midichlorian stuff whatsoever. In my mind, the force should be comprehended, but not understood, at least not entirely.