Had TFA and TLJ pleased fans, would TROS be the end?

TFA did please fans and make money. I hate this revisionist history crap. You people lie and present the lie as fact.

7.8 on IMDB, 93% on Rotten Tomatoes, 80% on Metacritic and it's the highest grossing movie in the franchise.

 

You're still angry

 

I hate this mentality that you're only allowed to criticize the sequels. It's become waaaay too fashionable. Cliche, even. It's a narrative pushed by Lucas Loyalists and it's pure BS. I have no tolerance for it.

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Lies anger me, yes. What of it?

 

The amount of criticism directed towards the franchise - to the point of lacking objectivity - is heavily directed at the sequels right now. I don't think that's really debatable. It's so biased that Kennedy gets blast on for the stuff they don't like - like the sequels and Boba Fett - and absolutely no credit for the stuff they do like: cartoons, Mando, and Andor.

 

I was banned from a forum because I mentioned Ben Solo in a Finn thread. There were some pretty nasty accusations.
The problem is, some fans are fanatics....and far too many people see offense where it isn't.

 

I get angry, but there is no need to be unpleasant to us posters because we have different opinions.

 

Hyperbole.

You speak as if there was no discontent from anyone as the the first ST film rode the SAGA's nostalgia to a billion dollar finish.


I could furnish this site with MILLIONS of Youtube comments alone, from the time of release lamenting the MANY flaws that THOSE fans had with The Force Awakens. They certainly were not pleased. I could also post thousands of comment(s) from THIS site from the time of release refuting your "fans were pleased". Here's a statement as fact to consider- I have only ever encountered positive reviews online.... NEVER once, has a grown adult showered praise on the Sequel films... so no, TFA did not please fans. At least not any of the adults that I rub elbows with because their butthurt over Disney's choices was and still is, very real.

Personally, I am glad people love them.... it tickles me, even. For context, I loved the Dark Crystal when I was a teenager and all my frenz thought I was retarded, so there's no virtue signaling on my end. I loved it because my little brother loved it and we watched it together.

People like what they like in life; but online, forum posters don't like different opinions.

Projection. But as my Master always used to say:

"Let the hate flow through you...."

Why are the opinions of others a lie? Who died and made you the Star Wars moral authority?

As my first teacher liked to quip:

"Curious."

Logical fallacy.

We are all free to speak our minds till the Disney Shill Bots (I love you @DarthSnow) tells us otherwise.

Recycled argument from 1999, 2002 AND from 2005. Same exact words were spewed by 500,000 different posters on one site alone. I know, because I moderated the content. I allowed robust dialog to flourish until the inmates made things personal or went off the deep end with ad hominem attacks. All opinions are BS, be thankful that you have somewhere to share them and be prudent.... this site offers a tool to block posts from those who drive you wamprat crazy.

As for your tolerance level, I've blocked a handful of people here and rarely get annoyed these days by redundant-opposite-opinions/ baiting-comments.

"Try it and maybe like it, you will."

As for mine: I like you, your posts make me smile.... they remind me of livelier time on the interwebz.

"Refreshing to read, from a certain point of view."

I have no plans to block you, but u may want to block me because I loathe almost everything about the Sequel trilogy....

Hopefully, you can see that it hasn't dampened my fandom one bit. I love the crappy prequels as much as the classic trilogy.

And I was once a PT basher.

Amazing.

Opinions can; AND, do change.... from time to time.

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"I told your *ahem* brother to tell you something once, I'll urge him to say those exact same words again."

 

No matter its quality, every Star Wars sequel has inspired some discontent. Its ubiquitous to the point of irrelevant. At least it's something that people don't really need to acknowledge and not be accused of pretending there is none. As if.

 

So we are now nitpicking about how there was nitpicking of the movies being nitpicked. Someone please tell me I'm wrong so we can add another layer of nitpicking.

 

Phew!

 

It's not "hyperbole" or "logical fallacy" to point out the OP's lies. TFA did make a ton of money - the most of any movie in the franchise - and has overwhelmingly positive reviews. My guess is you're just mad because I corrected a sequel hater's blatant lie (probably because you want it to be true due to your own dislike of the trilogy)

You go ahead and post those millions of comments.

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As I pointed out in, my first response, TFA did please fans. The reviews are overwhelmingly positive and it's the highest-grossing movie in the franchise. I don't care if you think it's "unpleasant" to correct the OP's lie.

 

TFA's success, I suspect, is largely down to the 'novelty' of seeing the OT cast back in their famous roles.
It's a fun, enjoyable film but rehashes the OT far too much.
Hero in white pyjamas on desert planet - check.
Villain in black mask - check.
'Flyboy' pilot - check.

TLJ was the film that tried for something really different, and Johnson was slated for it, despite huge critical acclaim. I find rewatching TFA shows it's flaws, whilst rewatching TLJ reveals what a clever, beautifully made and acted film it is.
TROS...I am unable to sit through that film more than once. Believe me, I tried. It's the only SW film I committed to the charity collection box.

 

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No matter what TFM and a bunch of whinny YT say (who honestly give me the impression that SW is just a fan insert for them). The films made a lot of money.

I think that Disney might have wanted to end the Skywalker saga with TROS, although it was profitable, and move on to something else. The SW universe is so huge and vast and there are plenty of stories to mine. And more Luke Skywalker type heroes to create .

My understanding is that KK and JJ had wanted another 6 months to work on the story for TFA and JJ had wanted TROS split into two parts and Bob Iger said no, because he wanted a quick ROI to satisfy shareholders. Given the the lack/weak profitability in streaming (ie. people subscribe for the run of a show then cut their subscription) , the box office impact by COVID, LF would want to go straight back to a sure bet money maker. Given the popularity of the ST cast ,Reylo and the age of the actors. I would be very, very surprised if there isn't an announcement for an episode X before the end of the decade (or 2027 the 50th anniversary of AHN).

 

oh good, i was wondering what people thought about the sequel trilogy /s

 

I'm not sure when we'll see episode X (it's inevitable unless the world ends), but we'll likely see the sequel trilogy cast in the next few films starting in 2025. By all reports that's what the Lucasfilm team is working on right now and it's probably why Daisy Ridely has been seen meeting with Kennedy the last couple of years.

 

At this point, I think it's more likely that we'll see a Legends ST trilogy adaptation with new actors playing younger versions of Luke, Leia and Han.