How did you feel after your second viewing

So the first time i watched it i was confused, riddled, the emotion of it all was alot to take in and so i was extremely torn apart by it.

And thats because so much happens in that film it takes you time to process, theres alot of new in that starwars movie.

But the second time i around i had already processed everything and was able to love the movie and see it for what it is an amazing new starwars adventure, it was so much better it had so many levels, i love that movie and i believe it is a masterpiece. The messages that it carries are amazing, and the cinematography is mind blowing.

It keeps growing more and more on me each time i play it back in my head!

For me that movie is 10/10 its all starwars needs to be, goofy, new, exciting, it challenges you. Its amazing

 

"The FIRST ORDER reigns.
Having decimated the peaceful Republic,
Supreme Leader Snoke now deploys
his merciless legions to seize military
control of the galaxy.

"Only General Leia Organa’s band
of RESISTANCE fighters stand against
the rising tyranny, certain that Jedi Master
Luke Skywalker will return and restore a
spark of hope to the fight.

"But the Resistance has been exposed.
As the First Order speeds toward the rebel base,
the brave heroes mount a desperate escape...."


The highlighted bit just didn't read well for me.

 

I've watched TLJ three times already, with my third viewing in IMAX 3D. Highly recommend IMAX. Both me and my friend loved the 3D experience and there was no headache at the end In TFA we both left the theater with an headache due to the 3D effects.

Now, getting back to the subject. As I suspected, TLJ has the "the more you see it the better it is" quality to it. As others have said, the first viewing can be quite a shock, and challenge. There's just way too much to assimilate properly. So, if your're the type that likes to analyse every detail and make sense of everything, then you may feel overwhelmed, if not disappointed with the first viewing.

I still think the Canto Bight plot is the part that works the least for me. There's good parts to it, but I still don't enjoy the chase that much (the flying cars and casino storm with the horse creatures). I like the first half of Canto Bight, but feel that the second half is kind of weak, but I understand others may love all of it, especially the kids.

I love the movie's humor style, so I don't have any problems with that, but I understand others might.

I also love Luke's story arc. The only part I'm not totally sold on is what was Luke doing in the Island if his wish was to die. But apart from that, I totally embrace what they did. I love Luke, as I loved Leia and Han. Heck, I have a Star Wars poster right in front of me above my head in my office. Yes, Luke is a Jedi, that never gives up. However, there may be a time when you realize, and be totally convinced, that you may be the problem, and that everyone else (especially the ones you love) could probably do better without you. I know it's kind of a depressing statement, but I totally get and embrace that.

Loved the entire Kylo and Rey showdown. Pity that we got nothing from Snoke's background and motives. As others have said, the Emperor didn't have either, and only appeared in ESB, but being an Emperor of a Galactic Empire needs no introduction whereas I feel a mysterious vilain like Snoke should have. Perhaps Rian didn't know / didn't want to develop Snoke and focus on other parts he wanted to flesh out more, like the new characters. Perhaps he thought that if JJ has created Snoke, perhaps it should be him to give some background to him in IX, if he wishes. I'm ok with that.

Then one can nitpick till the end of days if some scene could be done better. The difference is that people who liked the film can dismiss the little details quite easily, while the people who didn't like the film will focus on the problems. There's no way around this.

I didn't like TFA that much. I find it is a good Star Wars movie, but one that is not original or satisfying enough. So, I can say I was disappointed by TFA. But, I love TLJ. I feel bad that a section of Star Wars fans did not like TLJ, and some will probably never will. But, perhaps they loved TFA. To those I say that it's probably impossible to please everybody and still be able to push the saga further in a refreshing way.

On the bright side for the people who didn't like TLJ but loved TFA, since JJ is coming back for IX, there's a good chance that you will like IX (and perhaps I won't, who knows). And there will be more movies! We just need to accept that we will probably not be able to love all of them (I don't like the PT very much, and I know many don't as well, and here we are - i.e., it's not the end of the world).

 

Please, please, explain to me how your feelings about a movie changes after the first viewing. Sure you can get some of the subtle things that you might have missed on the first go around. Like Hux reaching for his weapon to kill Kylo and then slipping it back when Kylo starts to get up or the Jedi books on the falcon. Those are quick fleeting things but my enjoyment of the movie doesn't ride on those things. Good movie and Bad movie are so far apart that unless i fell asleep or a kid was kicking my chair the whole time, I couldn't mistake one for the other no matter how many times I see it.

 

There are a lot of ways.

Tastes change over time.
My favorite movies at age 8, 18 and 28 are wildly different.
Hell, my tastes in movies have changed a lot over the last 2-3 years easily.

Expectations change.
On first viewing of a film like TLJ, we have all built up stories and expectations in our head.
Seeing it for the first time can be a shell shock if it didn't meet those expectations.
Repeated viewings allow for you see that just because it didn't meet your expectations, doesn't mean it isn't good in it's own way.

I think it's a whole lot of expectations vs what you got.
And for some, those subtle things really matter.
"How did DJ know what the Resistance was doing?" is a question asked often...well it's right there in the movie.
That could, in the end, make or break a whole segment of the film for someone.

My expectations were shattered with Last Jedi.
After the first viewing I knew I saw something special. But it was the second and third viewing that really got me to see why.
I was able to much more fully appreciate the whole arc of the film when not using my predetermined expectations to judge it.

 

That's interesting. Maybe I could understand if people are seeing the movie a year later, but at most we are talking a week or two. I wonder if anyone goes the opposite direction. I loved it and now I hate it. I saw it twice and sit squarely on disappointed. I feel as far as a sequel the movie failed. It didn't really build on the new lore that TFA left us with.

 

We fundamentally disagree then. I feel like it took the lore of TFA and actually focused it to a point of actually having more than just a red herring quality.

 

Well, I had my third viewing today and I liked it even more than the previous times.
Now that I know what happens, I am able to fully get into the experience.

 

I saw it on an IMAX screen on my third viewing, and had a similar experience. It was the most I've enjoyed a 3D movie in a long time.

To me the difference between the lack of history with Snoke in the ST and the Emperor in the OT is that with the Emperor there were no preceding films. We didn't know his history, but we didn't know anyone's history aside from the little nuggets they gave us. With Snoke, thats not the case. He's an awfully powerful character with an increadible amount of resources to have appeared from nowhere. It's not the issue for me that it is for some people, but it does stick out.

I don't really consider the lack of explanation to be a flaw in TLJ, but rather a symptom of Lucasfilm's decision to not map out even a basic outline for the ST before writing began. I know people say that's how the OT was conceived, but Lucas had at least a vague idea of where he wanted the story to go, and the there's a natural cohesion created by having the same person map out each story.

If they had known Snoke would die in TLJ, they might have decided to give him a bit of a backstory in TFA where it would have fit better.

For me (and this only applies to Star Wars films) it's hard to get a real feeling for how much I like a movie after one viewing. I've seen all the movies so many times, that a new episode can be jarring just because it's not familiar yet. There's also a low level of anxiety that goes along with watching a new episode for the first time - that started for me after TPM when I learned that a Star Wars movie could turn out to be something I disliked.

 

Mmm, I liked it more 1st viewing.

2nd viewing I liked it but I really started to see the cracks.

I think with a co-writer or co-co-writer more teamed with Rian, to check some of his impulses, it would have really scored high for me.

And an editor. TLJ could haven been close to Empire, but alas.

 

Great surprises: the first time around.
Having your favourite meal without any surprises: the second time around.

 

I watched it the second time with my children.

They loved it. More than loved it.

And surely that is what Star Wars is all about.

It is escapism. It is not about fan boy theories. It is not about Disney. It is about wonder and enjoyment.

TLJ provided that in spades to a couple of 8 year olds. I hope they never develop the petty cynicism and sense of entitlement that many on this board appear to have acquired.

 

I watched the first time dressed as Rey Jedi Training and loved it.

I watched the second time and loved it even more.

Of course it has its flaws. Every single movie has them. But even so I loved it. It is poignant but what happens makes a lot of sense.

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