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Is Rogue One Disney’s best Star Wars film yet?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Dr. Reebox24, Dec 25, 2017.

  1. Mosley909

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    Really? I’ve watched that film .... I really don’t know how many times probably more then it’s cool to admit, and I’ve never noticed that.

    I’ll have to watch it again to check .... ow what a shame
     
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    My Most Sincere Apologies fer interrupting' this here ... conversation ...
    'Rogue One' is a LucasFilm ... Film.
    Says So At the Start.
    Ain't No "Mickey Mouse" 'ears' ... nor No "Cinderella's Castle" 'fore IT ...
    I Saw One Thing... 'LucsFilm' .. was in Silver Letters ...
    was That What Ya All Saw ??
    ... Same as I Did .. ? Purdy Sure We All Saw The Same ...
    ... Yeah !?
    ...was Two Years Ago, AnyWays ...
    ... WHY's ... still a thing ... ???
     
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    That is a really tough question.....I have R1, SOLO and TLJ all very very close. 3 different movies that I love each in their own way.
     
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    I believe the OP's title means the Star Wars movies made since George Lucas sold LucasFilm to Disney.

    But I'm pretty sure you knew that already.

    So why point out a minor point in corporate ownership that everybody already knows and nobody misunderstood?
     
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    Overall, I've enjoyed all four of the Disney-era Star Wars films and in a way, I kinda enjoy the spin-offs better than the ST. Despite this, Solo easily beats RO in my book and is my favorite Star Wars movie out of these last four. In my opinion, Solo and RO both greatly captured the feel of the OT and more so than what TFA and TLJ are trying to replicate. I just happened to have more fun with Solo than RO.

    To me, the new characters in Solo are more interesting than the new characters in RO and don't come off as stiff as some of the characters were during parts of RO. The easter eggs in Solo were also much more nuanced than this movie. It made me smile more and feel more rewarded when I'd hear or notice something casually brought up in Solo, then something like the Ponda Baba and Doctor Evazan moment in RO. The musical score in RO had this "Royalty-Free" feel to it, if you get what I'm saying, while I like the unfamiliarity of the Solo score better. The Mimban scene from Solo even felt more like what I was imagining RO to be like than RO itself. Though in RO's defense, L3-37 almost felt like a watered down K2SO clone to me and the lighting and visuals in some parts of Solo felt too much like this movie.

    Oddly enough, RO and Solo had first halves that were boring for me on first viewing, but became much more enjoyable the next couple times I watched both. Both make great additions to the Star Wars universe in my opinion.
     
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    Totally subjective of course, but it's easily my favorite of the four. Love the score, the tie-in to ANH, most of the characters, the cameos (could have done without Ponda Boba & Dr.E). Plus it scratched my childhood itch to discover how the Rebels had just won their first victory against the Empire. I mean, I knew something big must have just happened for the Tantive IV to be hightailing it the way it was. Now there are some elements that may have been a little clunky (the meeting in Vader's castle was thrown in only to show Vader's castle -- totally pointless to the plot) but all in all, it really hit me in the sweet spot.

    I haven't been thrilled with the direction the core OT characters have taken in the ST so it's been tough to really fall in love (I've tried, just get there). And Solo ... oh wow ... after enjoying R1 so much I was hoping these spin-offs would be my new thing. But man I did not enjoy Solo.

    1. R1
    2. TFA
    3. TLJ
    4. Solo
     
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    I absolutely *love* it. Forget the Disney buyout, or segregation of trilogy eras within film-making, this for me is my absolute favourite Star Wars movie. I never thought that was possible, I saw the original when I was 4 or 5, I *loved* it, the whole OT were magic before my eyes, back in those days there was nothing like them.

    But you know, I grew up, I become a teenager in the 90s, I moved into Alien and Blade Runner, I wanted my science fiction a bit darker, a bit grittier, the stakes more powerful, more human suffering, I played those 90s Star Wars PC games and they'd grown up in the way you'd have expected Star Wars to have grown up; Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight, TIE Fighter, the books of the Thrawn trilogy, it all became more dark, more grown up, less Errol Flynn and more sci fi drama for an ageing audience. Even Shadows of the Empire had that scene with Leia wishing she'd been naked beneath her dress as Xizor's pheromones attempted to seduce her, sure maybe it was designed to excite teenage boys, but this was all stuff that I thoroughly enjoyed as I grew up as Star Wars grew up.

    The prequels threw all that in the bin, they went pantomime, the threw ageing human evolution to the wind to create a new trilogy for a new generation. Fine, whatever, that was Lucas's choice, thought it was ridiculous if you ask me, but hey, I didn't create the thing.

    Whilst the characters were different, It wasn't Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors, it was Cassian Andor and Jyn Erso, but the mood was there, that grown-up military infighting of the 90s EU media was there, it was exactly the type of movie that mid-30s-me wanted to see Star Wars make. I didn't mind they'd changed the canon, because Rogue One was the 90s 'grown up' Extended Universe in everything but characters. It was full of death, grey areas of morality, emphasis on the military, it was everything I could have possibly wanted beyond putting Kyle Katarn in it. An Imperial officer cuddling his young daughter to bed? A rebel soldier assassinating an informant? Mon Mothma, Bail Organa and Imperial Juggernauts from the prequels? Red Leader, Gold Leader, Grand Moff Tarkin and Princess Leia from a New Hope (and god if I can accept some of the utter crap effects - by 2018 standards - in A New Hope, you know what I can totally accept a CGI Tarkin and Leia - that my 8 year old son accepts as REAL)? All absolutely perfect. This was X Wing Alliance the movie and I love every second of it.

    Sure I'd love to see what was deleted, but only cos I love it so much, I'd just be happy to see more. If those trailers never existed, I'd consider what we got perfection.
     
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    Just to add to my last post... cos I can't seem to find an edit button (am I being daft and/or drunk or does it disappear?) but I've just watched Rogue One again because my last post got me all 'in the mood' and I can't stress how much I enjoy it, it's everything that as an adult Star Wars fan I could have ever wished for. I love how different it is from, say, The Last Jedi, because for me it perfectly sums up a probably-inocuous line from Luke in the original in which he says, "You know of the Rebellion again the Empire?" like it's a whole other story. And yes, Luke's story intersects with theirs, but goes in a whole different tangent of magical exploration after Hoth. By the time of the Last Jedi, it is very a different storyline, one he doesn't want to be involved with, something he's moved emotionally beyond because it became so personal, or perhaps so trivial. His X-wing, er, wing, is now his front door, the military is primitive nonsense to Luke. However, I loved having a movie of "the Rebellion against the Empire" and the juxtaposition it creates with some of the more outlandish mystical force elements the Episode movies follow, as well as Clone Wars and Rebels. This was dropships and officers and fleets and bombing squadrons... and I love every second of it.

    I'd give it a standing ovation, but I'd be in my lounge by myself and everyone would think I was mad, but just saying... I really love this movie.

    May have had 8 pints of Groslch though, so perhaps I didn't need a second post, but you know, I still think it's a perfect evolution for Star Wars after nearly 40 years of films, books, comics and video games. If someone channeled the visual beauty of the EA Battlefront games (they may be crap multiplayer fests, but there's no denying they're an audio and visual delight) into a movie, they'd be this.
     
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    ...'Disney Who !? ?

    It's LucasFilm, Folks .
    LucsFilm.
    Get It it Straight.

    LucasFilm.

    Got It !?

    No.
    Rilly.Got It !?
    LucsFilm.

    ...yeah.
     
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    Personally, and of course ALL of this is personal, I do think this is the best of the "Disney" era films. I could watch this film once a week for the rest of my life and I don't think I'd get tired of it.

    I love the fact that it really does put the "war" into Star Wars. I was so intrigued by the "holy" city of Jeddah and the Guardians of the Whills that I desperately hope they do more with both. I want to find out more about all these different sects who worship or venerate the force.

    Oddly, or maybe not, I think the one shots have been the better films so far. TFA was fun and all that, but yeah, let's not go here.

    Anyway, I also loved the two books, the lead up book Catalyst and the novelization itself.
     
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    In my opinion it's the best of the new films.
     
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    What's so great about it? A boring lady steals a hard drive that some people in another movie use to blow up a space station. The characters are dreadfully dull. It's colorful Star Wars eye candy with some cameos by Star Wars wax museum figures and not much more than that.
     
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    i'm pretty much okay with this.
    and far from dull, Krennic, Galen, Chirrut, Baze, Raddus, K2SO, and Bodhi are some of my favorite characters.
    okay Cassian and Jyn aren't terribly exciting, but they serve.

    Jedha is still my favorite new Star Wars city of all the new era films, and i about peed myself when i saw Benthic/Edrio/one of their race in Solo. : D
     
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    I liked Solo alittle more then R1 only because the characters were better.
     
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    Galen is the only interesting character (okay, maybe Chirrut und Krennic too) who I really like in R1, while I like almost every character of TFA (and TLJ). Haha!
     
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    To be honest, those of us who just saw the OT in the theater view the prequels, sequels, and even the standalone movies as Bonus Star Wars. I really thought we were three and out, no new movies. Something is better than nothing... and we thought the story was over.
     
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    well said. : D
     
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    Rogue One isn't just a great Star Wars movie, it's the best Star Wars - in any form - since TESB and my third favorite movie of all time.
     
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    I would say it was the best of those three. However, I think that Solo is better now!
     
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    Interesting. For me Rogue One is still the best of the Disney films, by a country mile. I hope IX beats it out, as I REALLY want to like the new stuff. Fingers are crossed. :)
     
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