SPECULATION Is there a bigger boss behind Snoke ?

He's been doing that for awhile actually. Some of them seem to think that Snoke HAS to be Plagueis, or at least a full-on Sith, in order to work as the main baddie. That, if he's not, then he's just "some moron" or an "ex-Imperial" or "some random guy" who took advantage of Sheev's fall. There are no other possibilities, and nothing that the film can do with Snoke will make it interesting otherwise.

It's a line of thinking that's, puzzling, to me and that I cannot agree with at all. Frankly, I don't want Snoke to be a Sith. I want him to be a different kind of threat (even if he is still a DS user). THAT sounds more interesting (potentially at least) to me.

 

Well, they rapid fired new baddies at us: Hux, Phasma, Kylo, and Snoke. The KoR are shown, but I can't recall if they are ever named. Apart from Kylo, no baddies are developed.

The only bad people we lose are SW version of redshirts. They lose starkiller but obviously have another significant base where Snoke is.


On the other hand, The Senate, the fleet of the republic, the several planets loyal to the republic (including the capital), and Han freaking Solo all die. Plus a majority of the resistance Xwings and pilots die taking out Starkiller.

For a movie celebrated as such a gee whiz ride of fun, that's an uplifting return to form, and with all the stealing it did from ANH, it leaves the good guys in way worse shape than ANH, while likely leaving the baddies in better shape than they were after ANH (all relatively speaking of course).


One of the reasons TFA has such an empty feeling is there's no Tarkin. Tarkin was evil, a threat, developed, and taken out in an interesting way.

We have no reason. To care about What happens to Phasma next and Hux isn't likely to surprise us in Ep 8

TFA is an okay movie for kids.

It's a gorgeous fan film, but the script has serious flaws one of the biggest is the treatment of the villains, not the villains they created.

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They were?

If we had all known TFA was going to be so close to a SNH remake, we might have expected it, but most of us thought we were getting an original movie.

Maybe "hoped for" is more accurate than "thought we were getting" since we knew JJ was directing.

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One of the best elements of TFA is that Snoke and Kylo are clearly defined as DS but NOT Sith.

The best comparison is the various bad guys in the Shannara books, they all are corrupted by dark magic and take radically different forms and require different strategies and good magics to be defeated.

We'd all like to change things about the prequels, and one of mine would be to show more of the Sith back story, and also to make clear that the Empire in OT was a manifestation of the Sith ethos.

 

Anakin should have asked Qui-Gon what a Sith is. I've heard that people watching the prequels weren't sure what a Sith is and it doesn't seem likely that Anakin would know what a Sith is before he met Qui-Gon.

 

Well it's not like he was naïve to it by the time of the events of APTC & ROTS ...

 

I heard about that theory.

But to have Snoke as a Mandarin from Iron Man 3 type of character just doesn't seem right to me. Ruling a fearsome force as the First Order is a lot of a job for just a puppet figure.

Also, Pablo Hidalgo stated clearly that Snoke isn't a Sith, so all those Darth-whoever theories goes down the drain. But, could it be possible to have a Sith Lord guiding Snoke? Or, as the title says, "a bigger boss behind Snoke"?

Well, yes. Do I like it? Not really. I think Snoke makes the major villain we need. And the secrecy about him is what makes him special.

On my modest opinion, I would like to see Snoke above the Jedi's and Sith's interpretations of the Force, like a "gray" force user. And I believe Luke achieved that same vision of the Force (or paradigm) when studying and searching for the first Jedi temples.

I would like to see this as the main theme of the new trilogy: a struggle more complex than just between light and dark, good and evil, Jedi and Sith. In one word, the so-called "balance" of the Force.