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SPECULATION JJ using EU Solo twins?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Greg Kirby, Apr 8, 2015.

  1. littlepadawan91

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    Jaina is not the only EU/Legends character who bears a striking resemblance to Rey:

    Source: organasrey.tumblr.com

    Ania:
    In the Legacy comic books there’s a character who’s a direct descendant of Leia and Han (either great-granddaughter or great-great-granddaughter - it’s unconfirmed) who works in a Junkyard until she discovers a lightsaber and her whole life is transformed, her name is Ania Solo:

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    A first Ania didn’t want or think she was worthy of the responsibility she was being handed…

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    Rey ran from the lightsaber and it’s implications too when Maz told her to take the Saber.

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    In the image above Ania is shooting at her nemesis - a Sith Knight called Darth Wredd - who wanted the lightsaber.

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    Who was it that wanted the Lightsaber off Rey and Finn in TFA?

    Kylo Ren.

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    Darth Wredd was a cyborg.

    Guess who was a cyborg in early talks:

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    Kylo Ren (early concept art above). In fact the metal on his face in this concept art mirrors that on Wredd’s face almost exactly.

    The lightsaber duel at the end of TFA and the wound Kylo sustained reminded me of this duel between Jao Assam and Wredd that ends with Wredd burned across the right side of his face:

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    Like Ania, Rey refuses to let Kylo have the Saber despite her earlier reservations about it.

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    Not only does Rey mirror Ania but Finn mirrors one of Ania closest friends, someone I already mentioned, the one who fought and scarred Wredd - Jao Assam.

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    Jao deserted the Imperial Knights not the Stormtroopers but it was for similar reasons - he wanted to do the right thing. His defining features are courage and righteousness.

    Ania and Jao:

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    Great post! I was not familiar with the Legacy material. But there are a lot of things in common...
     
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    canonically, rey is at least 10 years younger than kylo ren.. so that automatically shuts down the theory. it would be an interesting twist though!
     
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    I'm still going with cousins now, both Skywalkers.
     
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    You're late to the party lol
    http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2015...es-on-the-force-awakens-story-and-rumors.html
     
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    Wow! That's a great find. I'm not familiar with the Legends material, so it's news to me.

    I still think they're brother and sister. It doesn't make sense, but neither does Luke & ? being her parents, either. I also think Kylo left her on Jakku, because he couldn't kill her in the Jedi academy attack.

    Maybe there is still some good in him? It all fits together a whole lot better if they are first-degree relatives. Rey will be faced with killing Kylo, too, but she won't because he's her brother, and also because it would break their mother's heart.
     
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    I've been thinking it a lot and I'm still on that theory too. I agree that a confrontation between an older brother and a little sister would be more poignant. And yes, I could see that heavy dilemma in their mother's heart. Anyway, whatever the origin they'd better make it look good lol.
     
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    The old EU, especially that revolving around Cade Skywalker and Ania, was based on George Lucas' original synopsis/draft he wrote for the sequels. Abrams/Arndt/Kasdan used that synopsis too, hence the similarities. They both used the same ground text. Especially the "Junkyard girl" being a part of Skywalker family, the "mystical lightsabre" and the antagonist who actively tries to acquire the weapon were all in that original draft. Also that antagonist was meant to be half robotic which explains the Kylo Ren concept art which looks a bit like the ghost from the Phantom of the Opera. As for Jao being similar to Finn, I think it is a coincidence and nothing intentionally. It was Kasdan who came up with the idea, let's make Finn a stormtrooper whereas originally he was either a defecting pirate or mercenary.

    There were also other ideas which returned in Cade Skywalker's arc. For instance, Cade having the ability to save people from dying and an antagonist who actively sought to aquire that power but who was nonetheless capable of unnaturally extending his life's duration. It also saw Cade switch sides for a moment which was also part of the original sequel arc written by Lucas. Perhaps these comics help us establish what's in store for Rey and Finn in the next movies.

    Great post. If someone has the SW legacy Ania comic series digitally please private message me or enter into a conversation at my profile please. I have all the Star Wars legacy issues but sadly not the ones revolving around Ania. I would really like to read them. Can anyone help?
     
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    WARNING: ALL KINDS OF SPOILERS!!!



    In Regards to EU material being used in the sequels

    It seems that while some inspiration is....perhaps...maybe being drawn fron the EU, Disney & Abrams are going in a different direction with with the plot and characterization. For example, Leia and Han's family of three children has been scrapped, and instead they now only have one child (from what we have been told). So, looks like we're seeing some character merging?

    Character Merging
    Character merging is a great way to compile many different aspects of a story when the cast list is a little too formidable. Anyone here ever see Game of Thrones? The literary author actually feels compelled to add a character-reference-list to his own books because it's so easy to lose track of the many, many faces and personalities contained therein. In the t.v. adaptation, many characters are merged together in order to keep certain aspects of the story true to the source material, while also creating a smaller cast that will be less overwhelming to the viewer. (I just used GoT as a reference here because it's a current trend, and it's one of those things most people are at the very least aware of). Hopefully I'm getting my point across. Point being, if aspects of the EU are being used, we will probably see a lot of character merging.

    If Ben was merged with Jacen from EU
    IMO, this could be the case, because Jacen was a student of Luke's who turned to the dark side, but that's about as far as that speculation can go because Jacen's master in the EU was so different from Snoke and IIRC, Jacen had no unhealthy fanboy obsession with his grandfather. It's seemingly implied that in the sequel story Snoke seduced Ben to the dark side while in the EU, the character of Jacen turned to the dark side after losing his brother and other stressful events.

    In Regards to the name "Ben"
    Why give Leia's son the name of Ben in the sequel movies unless Luke and Mara's EU son (named Ben) was merged with another character (as I said, probably Jacen from EU). The name "Ben" is much more intimately linked to Luke than it is to Leia because Obi-Wan was Luke's "guardian" throughout his childhood and his not-for-very-long Jedi master. Sorry if I'm rambling here but the name "Ben" is just so particular to Luke's character arc and I can't see why the name was handed off to Leia's son unless it was scrapped from Luke's story entirely. Meaning, in my humble opinion, Luke has no child. (Unless maybe we find out that Rey's real name is Anakina and she made up the name "Rey" because it's a great cheesy way to cover up plot details).

    Of course nothing I've just said is applicable unless J.J. is actually using material from the EU. Just some thoughts. :D
     
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