La Times: Admit it, The Force Awakens stinks

I just don't like that they copied it to that degree. It's one thing to have similarities and all, but they come out and say that it's basically a copy in the movie itself.

 

You added # 360... ;-)

 

People have every right to love TFA if they do and people have every right to hate it and everything else in between. People have every right to express their views on the film and shouldn't be attacked for it. It is so largely irrelevant anyway what other people think about a movie (sorry reviewers and journalists). What should ultimately matter is what you yourself think about a movie. You can take another person's opinion or perspective on something and it can inform you on something you didn't think about or notice before. Who is going to want to accept your perspective or opinion if you want to force it down someone's throat or attack someone for having a different opinion to you? You need to put your personal feelings aside if people didn't care for something that moved you in a film or if you hated something about a film. This is just a film. You may love it, it may be your favourite film of all time, it might be your worst, but it's still only a film. As a community of people who all share a love for star wars (I presume) It would be nice if we could all share our views without getting too personal or rude. The term "Hater" isn't helpful especially when a person who is being labelled that might only have a few problems with the movie. If someone has many problems with the movie so what? It is their opinion.

 

Do I have every right to marry it ?

 

Hahahahaha

 

Great this guy found one negative review and he uses it as his own personal proof. The LA Times, a semi-local newspaper. Did you happen to see the reviews in the USA's other authoritative media platforms? Does the review of the LA times stack up to those other reviews? No

Just for the statistics and to put things into perspective by means of my backgrounds, Dutch news papers always bash pop culture products. There was no hype for The Force Awakens in the netherlands, only amongst true fans. Furthermore, the Dutch being true Calvinist, often consider an 8/10 an excellent- and in most cases maximum score. Yet The Force Awakens received an aggregated score of 4.5 stars (9/10): a score aggregated by means of the reviews produced by the following authorative and critically lauded national news and media platforms: De Volkskrant, Algemeen Dagblad, De Telegraaf, NRC Handelsblad, NU.nl, NOS, Trouw. In the same outlets the prequels received extremely low scores. A 9/10 aggregated score is exceptionally rare within Dutch citical reception of motion picture releases.

TFA now has a massive audience in the Netherlands. There has been no negative buzz concerning the Force Awakens. For many it is just a movie which happens to be very good. There is no 'special relation' between Dutch culture and American culture as is the case in the USA.

So I hope this puts things in perspective.

 

Because I totally might ... If I ever end up liking the movie but weirder things have happened .

 

Oscars 2016: Academy high-fives 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens'

LA TIMES 1/23/16


After swiftly climbing to the top of the all-time domestic box-office chart, “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” added to its larder with five Academy Award nominations Thursday.

The film garnered strong reviews — 93% positive on Rotten Tomatoes and an 81% Metacritic score — as well as multiple guild nominations and recognition from the American Film Institute

READ MORE HERE -

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/la-et-mn-oscars-star-wars-20160114-story.html

 

Lol comparing Star Wars to Harry Potter and LOTR is like comparing apples to oranges to peaches .

 

Corrupt critics? Propaganda? Corrupt Academy? Really? Are those the only excuses you can come up with for why you didn't like a movie a hell of a lot of other people did? Face it: Your negativity, which you are certainly entitled to, represents a minority. The overwhelming response to the film both critically and popularly, is positive.

The predictable, repetitive, short-sighted and downright idiotic criticisms presented by the professional nit-pickers and whiners have failed to make fans of this movie turn against it. No amount of conspiracy theories or constant bashing will convince fans of the movie that the film isn't good. We know we enjoyed it, we know how it made us feel, we know how we liked the characters, the dialogue and the quality of the filmmaking that was put into the production.

So just move on and accept the fact that you don't like a film that a lot of people do. Which is perfectly fine. There are plenty of other movies out there for you to enjoy. Let us enjoy this one without being told that our enjoyment of it is illegitimate or the result of propagandistic brainwashing.

 

Yeah, you cracked the code.

You're awesome, wanna a cookie?

 

the point is we never learn of your criticism. And most of the people who nitpicked this movie did so in a way that was hilariously ignorant. Go on. Take your best shot. Tell us why you think its a bad movie. And let's see how original your critique is. If it is not........

 

So no answer then. Good try. You suffer from a Phantom Menace trauma. You clearly cannot distinguish a good star wars movie from a bad one.

 

I think this is sums up the problems with the film:

 

That is mostly because Lucas looks down on the fans who love the originals which in his opinion are inferior movies compared to the prequels. The point is is that Lucas is a great story builder and is a man who knows how mythology works (if only derivatively). What Lucas does not know, is how to screenwrite, how to work with actors, how to animate believable dialogue and articulate proper staging on screen. He's an inferior director compared to Spielberg, Abrams (The Force Awakens) and Irvin Kershner (Empire Strikes Back) who know exactly what a good screenplay should be (L. Kasdan), how to stage, frame, animate dialogue and how to work with actors. A New Hope is often seen as "the best Star Wars movie", but only because if its historical significance. It was the first movie which lauched Lucas' world to a wider audience. But when you look at the cinematography (95% impressive due to ILM and THX) and the important criteria we just mentioned (dialogue, staging, framing, screenplay, actor director interaction), the movie really is as flawed and annoying even as the prequels. The difference with Empire Strikes Back, directed by Kershner, is like light and day. Same goes with the Force Awakens (Abrams), which in terms of the criteria just mentioned and its actual execution on screen is even superior to ESB. The best way to see this is whenever you watch Empire Strikes Back or The Force Awakens, look at how the actors act when they non verbally respond to lines delivered by their fellow actors. It is absolutely sublime, natural and believable. Then compare it with the same non dialogue acting in ROTS and ANH and you'll immediately understand my argument.

 

I have nothing to contribute to this thread but I feel the need to say thank you. I read every single post this afternoon and I had quite a few laugh out loud moments that made me appreciate being a retired Star Wars Mod. This is now my second favorite thread. Don't ever change Cantina patrons, because that would disappoint me.

 

You know most of the actors who worked with Lucas really say only nice things with him. Jake Lloyd, however does have some mental problems which is unfortunate. And when you hear Lucas talk about film and the story you can tell he's a very visual director, so it's no wonder the Original Trilogy was always inferior in his mind. The technology that wasn't available back in 1977 is available 20 years later and we were able to see how the Star Wars trilogy was supposed to be, but people don't actually like change a lot like this. If what he had done with the special editions actually came out in 1977, the result of Star Wars would still be the same. Also the whole series is a space opera, by definition means a novel, movie, or television program set in outer space, typically of a simplistic and melodramatic nature. Therefore the odd dialogue and situations actually fits with the story Lucas was trying to tell with this in mind. The series is a soap opera with a backdrop of Science Fiction and Fantasy while the characters are going along with the situations at hand. He loves his fans, in his mind he'd rather give fans the full version of the films, even if they'd want to also want the theatrical versions of the films, he just doesn't think they're that great and would have been better the way the special editions are now back in 1977.