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SPECULATION Leak with new details and info incl. character names

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by darthwompabat, Nov 4, 2014.

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  1. darthwompabat

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    This guy posted about the Star Wars wrap party before it was announced publicly.

    http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/50158005/#50158005

    Here it goes. Tons of spoilers, beware.

    >John Boyega's character is Sun Leonis, he's the main protagonist. He's an ex imperial soldier.
    >Daisy Ridley's character is Fawn Solo, but she hides her identity to avoid assassination (everybody wants to kill Leia and her kid, surprise) and gets by name Kira. She lives on Tattooine. The planet is even more devastated now, because wars.
    >LUPITA NYONG'O PLAYS THE MAIN BADDIE, she is refereed to only by her surname, "Malila". She's an emperor-like character, two faced politician, SHE SECRETLY DRESSES UP AS DARTH VADER and leads remaining imperial forces to provoke wars and achieve her "mainstream" political goals.
    >Adam Driver's character is called sth like "Rage", he's the GRANDSON OF COUNT DOOKU and he's basically a swordfighting commando-crusader serving Malila, a religious nut, zealot of the Sith religion. A secondary villain, but important.
    >Leia is very weak and she moves around using a Star-Wars-y "wheelchair on legs", like the ones in TPM; all force-sensitives are dying of an "unknown sickness", because plot (IT'S THE SAME THING THAT KILLED PADME, wink wink).
    >Luke is "somewhere out there", he shows up only in the last act and his appearance is surprising, to say the least.
    >GWENDOLINE CHRISTIE PLAYS BOBA FETT's successor and wears exactly the same armor (her being a woman is a twist I guess), she kills Han at the end.

    Basically most of the cast is irrelevant, they don't play anyone who really matters, at least in this episode (Oscar Isaac, Gleesson, they're only in the background, Sydow only has a minor role, scene with Simon Pegg who plays a yoda-like wise creature, and dies pretty quickly).

    The current title actually is "The Ancient Fear".

    I do not know the whole script, only some scenes, I can't really tell you how the story goes in its whole, except for what I put together on my own.
     
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    Interesting.
     
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    "LUPITA NYONG'O PLAYS THE MAIN BADDIE, she is refereed to only by her surname, "Malila". She's an emperor-like character, two faced politician, SHE SECRETLY DRESSES UP AS DARTH VADER and leads remaining imperial forces to provoke wars and achieve her "mainstream" political goals."

    I really hope that person in the link you provided was trolling
     
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    Looks like everyone is hopping on the leak bandwagon and making up new rumors that deviate from other rumors lol
     
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    who really knows what is true and what' s trolling and what is JJ's desinformation. Things are that it is funny to read all these and speculate here :)
     
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    The loser-chan websites are filled with literally the worst people on the internet. It's a den of racists, misogynists, LGBT haters, and terrorists. This is at least the fourth in a line of idiocy from that where their supposed story keeps changing. I'm not going to post the three previous posts that this latest just added and changed upon. Nothing should be rushed to be posted out of there. It's not responsible and that's why I personally sit on a lot of things that I haven't shared to date because of the potential BS factor.
     
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    There is nothing in that report that conflicts with what I have been told. I'm not verifying but nothing that contradicts. Its more accurate than Kyle's scoop.
     
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    Ok, first of all, let's not be too hard on darthwompabat, they are just reporting what they saw on 4p

    More of the leak went on to say:

    My understanding is, yes, there will be something exploding in the sky, and a Star Destroyer would cover it. Here is the problem I have with this: The current rumor mill shows that when Daisy and Chewie are in the cantina, and Han is running through the streets...

    If this is the case, then Han and Chewie have already encountered Daisy, and they are getting ready to leave Tattooine.. this would not, I think, be the reason she is on Tattooine... And if the concept art is correct, the Falcon is there as well, so unless he was on the Star Destroyer and comes down to the planet in the Falcon....

    Also, didn't they establish it wasn't Tattooine?

    So, off the cuff, I gotta look at these critically...

    Lupita dressing up as Vader... what, so people wont know he is dead?
     
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    We know that already except for the name.
    This is, in my opinion, a speculation made into something more.
    It's lousy, but... Haven't we had a confirmation that Lupita is playing Leia's political rival? Her being also a Darth Vader impersonator could prove to be a nice twist.
    The name is what makes me think that it might be real. It sounds like something Lucas would come up with. It's a basic feminization of the latin word Mal (evil).
    Works with other leaks and rumours, passable.
    I don't know, a little bit far fetched.
    Nothing new.
    Far fetched, maybe possible.
    That's a waste, but it's possible. Oscar and Domhnall have many upcoming movies, Disney would've kept them on a shorter leash if they were crucial to the story. Also - as harsh as it sounds - you don't hire an ageing actor with a trilogy in mind.
    I'm ok with that if it's true.
    That's the most interesting thing about this "leak". Maybe it's coming from someone close to the production but not necessarily knowing the plot details?
     
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    Well the Cantina was actually a bidding house (MakingStarWars) and Lupita was there as an authority figure telling Han he has 25 bounties on his head (king 3000).
    King also said Simon Pegg cameos in the bidding house assaulting Daisy but Chewbacca rips his arm off.
    And Fawn & Kira are both production names, not actually used in the movie.
     
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    Right... but either way, it's not like this happened, and Daisy flees to Tattooine for a year or more, and then the movie happens... she is already there when it happens...
     
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    Right. Also in my post I put in the word madness it was supposed to be names.
    This leak contradicts almost everything we already "know"
     
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    Do you have this confirmed? If yes, the way I see it it's unlikely that a random person would come up with two names used during production out of nothing. I mean, I'm following the news and heard about Kira, but never about Fawn. Some leaks called Darth Maul "Panaka" in 1998, it could simply be misplaced.
     
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    They didn't "come up with" those names... they have both been known production names.
     
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    I think that KrisM guy who had seen the Arndt script said it was from there but don't hold me to it. Viral probably knows, he will be on in a few hours I'm sure.
     
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    Good to know. So, it's rather a fake. Nevertheless, I wish we knew something more about the plot already.

    Damn, I need to stop getting excited every time I hear the word "leak".
     
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    This is worthy enough to be labeled Speculation! (Mods?)

    Thanks darthwomparat!

    Lots of juicy tidbits in there.

    Also, Viral and mods: maybe time to start an uber Rumor Mill thread, stickied so as to avoid the nonstop thread creation for every single new bit of speculation. Then the rules for rumors can be laid out in the first post i.e. be nice, don't troll, substantiate wherever possible, don't name sources or jeopardize jobs etc.

    Mallila and Darth Rage eh... Not half bad.
     
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    Excellent idea...Voxx why don't you make one, and sticky it... maybe call it General Star Wars: Episode VII News & Rumors Thread.
     
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