Luke isn't light.. or dark.

I don't know if this will be the case, but I hope it is.

 

He's not light or dark...he's white .

 

Makes since to me.

 

This same topic has been discussed several times on the forum.
It is very likely Luke will be force neutral or not part of one side or another but I think the events of the film will be a "call to action" & Luke will feel compelled to act. Force ghost Yoda might be involved too but I doubt Qui Gon Jinn or Obi Wan will also appear.

 

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You are basically describing exactly what I want the sequel trilogy to do with Luke's character arc. Heck, he already went dark several times in RotJ, but most people dismiss that as meaningless because he quickly "came back" each time. But how many times do you get to do that before you're no longer considered a Jedi? It seems the natural evolution of Luke for him to end up as a Kyle Katarn-like figure (old EU character who had a major brush with falling to the dark side and afterwards lived as a sort of "gray" Jedi, utilizing Force abilities from both sides as needed without letting those acts define him. This made him a ridiculously cool badass to the fandom....he was basically the Star Wars equivalent of Jack Bauer or Chuck Norris. I would fall out of my chair in happiness if they turned Luke into someone like that. Much better than "he's being a hermit because he is old" or "he accumulated too much power and fell to the dark side" or any of people's other theories. Give us a Luke who is 100% his own man and not beholden to anyone else's ideas of morality, and especially not the failed Jedi and Sith orders....

 

It's not that he went dark, but that he was really freakin angry at his dad .

 

Well, Yoda seems to consider those to be one and the same thing. IMO Yoda was a moron, but I am trying to look at it from the creators' point of view.

 

Yoda wasn't a "moron" he felt conflicted because of unclear messages-visions from the Force.
He, for the most part distrusted the Skywalkers but could not clearly explain why he felt that way.
I think as time went on or maybe early in Yoda's life/Jedi training he was made aware of Darth Plaguis The Wise & foresaw the impending doom & strife.
Some scenes & dialogue in TESB seem to skew Yoda towards showing Luke the "light" side of the force.
Obi Wan saw more promise in Luke because he thought there was a way Luke could defeat Vader & maybe Plaguis then prevent a enternity of darkness/evil.

 

There is really no such thing as grey. Luke was a profound idealist. He is good through and through. He got angry but he in the end tossed his sabre aside and announced his assent to Jedi. His black shirt opened showing the "light" in side. The light and dark of the force synonomous with good and evil. Luke was good he will still be good.

 

I'm sure episode 8 will have a lot of training scenes with Luke preaching the Tao of Skywalker. I can't get behind Luke not being one of the good guys (in fact THE good guy) and using the dark side in a "balance of the Force" there doesn't seem to be a reason to do this, and it's against Luke's character.

What I mean is, Yoda said the dark side isn't stronger just 'quicker, easier, more seductive'- Luke not only has no reason to use the dark side since it's not stronger (meaning either the two sides are equal in strength, or the light side is stronger (I'd argue the latter based on the principle that light always beats darkness- if you turn on a light, it 'wins' every time, and you'll always have an illuminated area)); the only reason to use the dark side is because it's quicker, but less powerful in the long run.

Now that he's 30 years older he should be way beyond the ability to be seduced at all; he already knows the proverbial 'power of the light side' over the dark side since he resisted the seduction of the dark side, redeemed his father (which everyone said couldn't be done), and beat the Emporer and T-T-T-TRIPLE COMBO! proved it.

It would all just be meaningless to him; the mere shadow of more youthfully susceptible past.

 

Also balance of the force is between light and dark. Its between the cosmic and living Force.

 

Good call; maybe they're going to revisit that whole idea from the prequels in more depth.

 

50 shades of Luke?

I hate that idea.




Also, he didn't 'go dark'... just like Anakin didn't go dark when he acted in anger or impulsively/emotionally (over and over). The turning point was very specific and clear.

Even Jesus (since Messiah comparisons amongst other religions tie-ins) was TEMPTED and passed. He also got mad at the money changers in the temple.

That wasn't Jesus temporarily going evil/dark lol







Some of you are dead-set on seeing Luke as anything but the obvious evolution of a retired hero in the light - like the late Yoda or OB1.

 

I don't find that silly at all. I feel that the Jedi's downfal was their dogmatic approach to understanding the Force. The wisest member on the Jedi council was the little green guy who realized maybe they'd misinterpreted the prophecy of the Chosen One. Yoda and Obi Wan both warned Luke about the temptation of the Dark Side, and I think Luke will forever keep that in mind.

 

What if upon finding the first jedi temple he uncovered the lies of the jedi?

 

Yes they bought a 4 billion dollar franchise of a movie that is know the world over, is a recognized religion, faithfully did homage in their first go so much so that the biggest complaint is its a rehash. All this to present the heroes of the film as dupes, the philosophy that Luke was introduced to that saved the galaxy is false and take a steaming dump on GL's vision.

 

I don't think that is what I said at all? Palpatine told Anakin in the PT that the Jedi lie. In the OT OB1 lied to Luke and went so far to say "many of the truths we hold onto are from a certain point of view."

What I'm suggesting is that he finds out hidden truths that were kept from him. Something such as the origin of the Jedi. I never meant he finds out the Jedi are really the bad guys but possibly something that changes his view.

EDIT: I seen I got a 'friendly' post. It was very hard to do, trust me. Usually I would have gone off the deep end but I'm trying real hard to follow in the footsteps of my new friend Light Savior_47.