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Luke Skywalker needs a SON

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Xeven, Oct 28, 2016.

  1. Boushhdisguise

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    Not having a son may have saved Luke's life.
     
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    Luke is a Jedi master, I don't see why he has to marry. This is the life he chose. Same for Ob1. Luke and Ob1 are Jedi who live by the code. We all saw what happened to Anakin when he strayed slightly from the Jedi code. To an average person, what Anakin did was not significant but when one holds so much power the slightest shift can lead u down the wrong path.

    The Jedi council doesn't exit but Ob1 and Luke still lived by its teachings. I take up martial arts so to me its similar. If you use your skill selfishly for your own needs you are not living by the warrior code. As a correction officer allot of people that are locked up and used martial arts for their own ends and winded up in jail for a long time. I've met allot of people on the job who practice martial arts and I can pick them out just by the way they carry themselves, and some of them are far more advanced then me. I train in different styles sort of like mma. Anyway, I would not be sad for Luke if he did not marry or had no children like the Solos.
     
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    Agreed on that.
     
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    Your insights and comparison about martial arts is interesting, but I never saw Luke as a Jedi of old and instead as a Jedi of new times. I mean someone who is able to balance work and private life. This doesn't mean he has to be married, he could just have or had a relationship to a soulmate. Out of this relationship he could have a kid he knows about or without knowing. So many possibilities which also offer the chance for good drama. ;)
     
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    Hmm, I never saw OB1 nor Yoda teach Luke that he had to be celibate nor avoid relationships.

    Since Vader purged the galaxy of Jedi information then Luke's version of Jedi would be what ever OB1 and Yoda taught him.
     
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    My perspective from just the films, (I know Luke got married in the Legends books) Luke doesn't seem that he would engage in a relationship. Thank god he didn't pursue Leia haha... Sort of like, OB1 living the life of a hermit, watching over Luke. But most people can't see that he just lived his life like that. They say he must have gone on some adventure while he was waiting for Luke to mature. Well I think OB1 looked after Luke and protected the Lars family. That was his mission and he stood by it. Luke at the end of TFA, to me, lived the same life, similar to that of OB1, to bring back the Jedi according to Han. To bring back my martial arts analogy, my instructor lives a similar life style, very humble, he doesn't have a significant other( I have had instructors that were married). He basically lives the life of a warrior monk. He lives in the dojo. His room is right next to it. He has mastered 7 different martial arts. When we train with the eskrima sticks boy it feels just like Jedi training very intense sword fighting.
     
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    Not sure it was a joke, the Rey's stuff didn't gone crazy at that time :

     
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    as I said before, I never saw Luke as the one who avoids family. As you wrote some of the martial arts mentors have family and some have not. Maybe more had once a relationship, but it broke and a kid resulted from this. I think it is too narrow minded to say Luke has to live a lifestyle of solitude like the Jedi of old.

    The same could be said about Leia, she should have never started a relationship with Han and instead spend her whole life to work in politics....but this was not as life played out...you may get my point. ;)
     
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    Why does the gender matter?

    I think what we have is a perfect pattern: Anakin Skywalker - Luke Skywalker - Rey Skywalker.

    Ben Solo / Kylo Ren is more of a secondary Skywalker, much like his grandfather in the original trilogy.

    And it creates a perfect balance of Skywalkers in the new trilogy: Luke - Leia - Kylo - Rey.

    Two Skywalkers and two Solos. One child for Luke and one child for Leia. The Son of the Daughter vs. The Daughter of the Son.

    But back on topic, Luke could have more than one kid. He could have another daughter who could be Rey's twin. He could have a son before them. I personally love the idea of Luke having more kids than Han and Leia, but I think what we have / could have is perfect.
     
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    I'm not saying Jedi should not have children, sex, relationships...etc. My point of view, is that Luke and OB1 are two Jedi that live by the Jedi code of old. Other Jedi might start a family or relationships, but what I've seen on screen( not the legend books btw i read and enjoy them I got a whole bookshelf), I don't think Luke or ob1 would go that route. I don't think Rey is Luke's daughter, and I don't think Luke needs a son. I think that Luke was too busy trying to bring back the Jedi order. I might be wrong, come ep.8, and thats ok. My analogy of martial arts is that I've come across a great martial artist who lives in a similar fashion. For him, he has not missed out on life, family, and relationships because all his life he loved martial arts... its his life. He was born to be a warrior. I asked him how did you learn, attained, so many martial art styles black belts. He trained night and day. Took private lessons. Went to tournaments and became friends with the best. Famous martial artist that have trained with Bruce Lee and I have admired all my life know him on a first name basis. One day you will find a teacher and when you do you will know that he is the one. I've had arrogant instructors, fake instructors, but my search is over...
     
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    Many people down here think the jedi code is irrelevant for the main reason that they want Luke to have kids. There's no real explanation for this except that the jedis were wrong and Anakin was right and all that happened to Anakin was the jedi's mistakes.

    No matter why Luke left his kid alone, no matter why he never searched for her or his wife, the only thing that matters is that the name Skywalker is still in the movie. You can write as many text as you want, even if it's logical or brillant, it is irrelevant considering they only have one wish and the only thing important in Star Wars is that name.

    This thread shows it all. They don't want only a girl now they want a boy ...

    BTW, I think your post is right on the money but no ... It won't work here.

    Maybe, it's the core of the plot of this trilogy. Luke abandonned Rey because it was pointless for him to have kids if it wasn't a boy to carry his name ...
     
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    I believe that the sex of the main new hero should not be too relevant in terms of the plot. What makes a person is not because of their X or Y Chromosomes, but in the choices they make. Star Wars focuses heavily on tough decisions and the effects of such decisions. We need to focus on the characters for who they are, but understanding the background is important too. Don't count me wrong on that. We all need to just see the bigger picture at play moving forward with the Skywalker family or the branches that may come off of it in the future of the franchise.
     
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    Be ready for some KK's quotes :D

    The woman who's obsessed by secrecy but spoiled the whole plot before the movie was even scripted.
     
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    I hope I'm not trolling but I liked when Luke and Mara Jade were married. I felt bad for him considering Han and Leia had gotten together. But from my experience not everyone weds or marries. From what I seen on screen I don't think Luke had a daughter or was involved in a relationship. If I am wrong I will except it as canon. I just have a gut feeling tht Luke and Ob1 would not go down tht path because they are warriors, Jedi, etc... allot of warriors marry but some don't. I was in a relationship for 7 years. Now I am not. I have allot more time to train and focus on my art. Maybe thats why I like that old crazy wizard OB1 so much.
     
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    IMHO, marriage and happiness are all but synonyms.

    Just ask Al Bundy :D
     
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    Yeah, I honestly feel like people have this idea Luke, practices or even knows the Jedi rules of old!
    If anything, Luke debunked the whole idea that if you submit to your emotions it's a direct path to the Darkside.
    He is arguably the strongest Jedi to live in Star Wars lore, and created his own version of the order, there is no evidence in
    current or old Canon he ever valued the idea of detachment and had a few romantic encounters and it never brought him
    closer to the darkside...
     
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    The thing is that we do not know much about Luke after ROTJ. However, during the events of the original trilogy, Luke was definitely interested in girls. Here is the extended scene with Leia on Echo base, where it is clear that he enjoys being kissed by Leia.



    Furthermore, the story of Weapon of a Jedi is told by C3PO to Jessika Pava. In the story (which takes place between ANH and ESB), Luke meets a girl called Farnay on the planet Devaron. At the end of the story, C3PO tells that Luke returned to Devaron after the Battle of Endor to see Farnay and that she had become a "capable young woman" by this point. In the Star Wars comic (which also takes place between ANH and ESB), there is some flirting between Luke and Sana Starros.

    Finally, we know that Luke has gone against his master's wishes before. He goes to Bespin to save his friends despite Yoda telling him not too. He is later told by Obi-Wan and Yoda to kill Darth Vader. However, it is Luke's affection for his friends (in ESB) and his father (in ROTJ) that ultimately saves the Galaxy. I see Luke's approach more similar to Qui-Gon Jinn (rather than Obi-Wan and Yoda), someone who not always took the Jedi Code too strict. After all, it is the Jedi's orthodox approach that allowed Palpatine to seize power.
     
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    You have made some really good points. Lets see if they follow those ideas in ep.8&9.
     
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    No, he would say that Finn needs a good kiss! :D
     
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    From Poe. Please Disney, make it happen.
     
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