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Making Star Wars Full Synopsis

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by odmichael, May 21, 2015.

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    I can buy into the whole "Star Wars VII: The Search for Luke" concept, but WHY....why is anyone looking for him?
    I haven't seen one logical explanation for WHY the lightsaber needs to be returned to him. The reason this sounds anti-climatic is because..it is.
    "Hey Luke, thought you'd want this saber"
    "Thanks."
    Roll Credits. Crowds cheer. Luke finally has his saber! Yahoo!!
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    Your post makes more sense than others I've read...but technically, Rey gets EVERYTHING: the saber, the gun, the Falcon, BB-8, Chewie as a pilot, Luke as a mentor....it's all hers.
     
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    Poe borrowed that.
     
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    I agree. It doesn't make sense for Luke to get it back. If he wanted it back he would've searched for it. But maybe the force wants him to have it back. Maybe it's the one thing that motivates him back into being who he was again. It's a reminder of how he was when Obi Wan gave it to him. I don't know.
     
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    Yeah pretty much, because that's what everybody wants..well, not everybody!
     
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    I dont think the relevance of Luke getting his saber back is the point. The point is the journey. By Rey and Co. attempting to return the saber, they encounter one another, become bonded, and have the impetus to realize their collective destiny.

    It is not "about" getting the lightsaber to Luke. That is merely the result of the journey. It is about the path the characters take - the journey itself.

    It is the will of the Force.
     
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    is it me or does it seem like j.j. is just remaking ANH? replace the death star plans with anakin's seemingly indestructible lost lightsaber, luke with rey, han with finn, leia with poe, vader with kylo and obi-wan with han and chewie. is this the best they could come up with? or is it actually a full reboot and they aren't telling us?
     
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    They aren't remaking ANH and it's not a reboot.
     
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    plot summary says otherwise
     
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    You mean the speculative theories based off concept art and people's minds.
     
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    If you generalize even more( for example: they destroy a weapon of the enemy) you could say the are remaking TPM, ANH and Jedi.
     
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    That reminds me a lot of the explanations Lost fanboys used to justify the ending. It's all about the characters and their journeys, it doesn't matter if the plot doesn't make any sense at all. For now I will keep my hopes up and let's pray it doesn't end up being something like "they all died in the trash compactor and now they are in limbo" scenario.
     
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    i hope that is all the plot summary is.but everyone seem to be taking it as fact no matter how stupid it sounds
     
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    Not attempt to justify anything. Merely pointing out that the lightsaber is the MacGuffin. No more, no less. It is the initial focus, sets the story in motion, decreases in relevance as the true storylines emerge, and then is resolved in the end when it is returned to Luke.

    Re the Losties: "they all died in the trash compactor and now they are in limbo" - kinda sorta, but you miss the gravity and relevance when you simplify and mock. They died on a plane crash and were in Purgatory. Anyone who thought otherwise was just kidding themselves. It was a great show (especially the first couple of years) and a great story (if you avoided the speculatory sites such as this and believed what everyone was shoveling).
     
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    That's actually a pretty good theory. For whatever reason, Luke has cut Kenobi off. How would Kenobi 'reach out'? The lightsaber. It's not the object, but rather, the sentiment behind it. The chance to start over.
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    [Plinkett voice]
    Two heroes crashland on a desert planet and meet up with a third hero who's a young adventerous fronteirsperson..
    They come into possession of a robot that contains something important that needs to be delivered to.. someone important.. I guess..
    The bad guys chase them relentlessly..
    But they escape on the Falcon..
    They go on a journey through space on a quest to deliver the item.. like my medication..
    Their journey is interrupted by bad guys showing up, and there's lots of running, shooting, yelling and of course.. Faaaaaalling...
    The old vetran is killed by the big bad guy but everyone else gets away on the Falcon..
    Then there's a big space battle.. Everyone but the fight pilot hero dies..
     
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    Some of you film critics are going to criticize this movie no matter how good it is. I actually like that theoretical plot. I like the way it throws you into the story, introduces new characters, interacts them with older characters, introduces new bad guys, and leaves enough backstory to fill in for the next 2 movies. Not all questions will be answered in the first movie. Seems like just the action packed space drama that JJ Abrams would put together. Got to have at least 3-4 scenes with Luke Skywalker. Maybe have Luke fighting the heroes attempts to talk to him. Lots of possibilities but just a couple of lines will make people angry.
     
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    This back and forth banter reminds me a lot of the forums from the prequels several years ago. As questionable plot points and details were starting to emerge, people started to divide greatly about what they liked.

    We all know how that ended.

    Let's hope history doesn't repeat.
     
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    Another trilogy another possibility. I hope your right,
     
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    for those wanting a better insight into the MSW synopsis, i'd highly recommend listening to their latest podcast. Jason clears up a few issues i had and he discusses the two potential ways the finn-rey-kylo battle plays out, both are BAD ASS!!

    EDIT: also @ 1 hour 27 mins, even jason calls his synopsis "the general gist", so for all those freaking out, even jason accepts that changes and differences are possible.
     
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    A New Hope was released a very long time ago, and a lot of recent Star Wars fans are very separated from that experience. The movies are also not being simply written for 30+ year olds, they're for the next generation of kids to fall in love with the same way so many did in 1979. The films hold up, but the bar has been raised and they've aged well, but they've aged. Look at the latest Mad Max movie. None of the old Mad Max films are bad, but the visual bar of the films has been raised quite high with the latest one due to technological advances (such as digital color grading, lighter smaller cameras, gyroscopic camera cranes on cars, ect). To an extent remaking ANH for the next generation isn't the worst thing, they're trying to tap back into that experience by beginning with a quintessential hero's journey, after which they can take whatever route they want. For the older fans I think the Anthology films will be more what they're looking for, high quality films in the same universe, but with a focus on a different demographic.
     
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    You make a very fair point. I think what many of us are having problems with are the just plain shoddy plot points/tropes being used in this version: the lightsaber floating through space, the pure coincidences that fuel the plot, the climax where the bad guy just runs away. Of course this whole summary is speculation; even if it's true, it's missing a lot of the substance that will eventually flesh everything out. Personally, I think the whole thing sounds pretty weak; if this was the best they could do for "original material", they would have been better off adapting the Thrawn trilogy, tweaking it to take place in the 30+ years that TFA is set. At least that story was able to replicate the feel of the OT without rehashing the same basic plot.

    Mad Max is a great example of how to handle an older franchise; Fury Road didn't retell the same story as any of the original MM films, but it did serve to reintroduce the franchise to a new generation whilst staying true to the aesthetic of the past. (Also, to anyone who saw it, how great was Fury Road?! Don't answer here, we do have a thread for it: http://thecantina.starwars7news.com/index.php?threads/mad-max-fury-road.22/)
     
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