Novelization-Exclusive Details.

Great details, in relation to Kylo Ren "Knowing" Rey, I was wondering if they shared some of the visions? Specifically where she is stood in front of the Knights?

 

Have more faith than ever that she is Luke's baby gurl..great post! P.s. HOW AWESOME IS THIS FRICKIN MOVIE! ?!

 

I wouldn't say the book definitely says he knows knows Rey but rather it takes him until the end of the movie to recognize her. He does say in the forest scene in the novel "who are you?' Because he can sense 'something'. During the interrogation while he's in her mind he also senses 'something' again, and it's noted it's not the map information he's looking for but something else interesting to him, and then he can't get any further because she blocks him.The compassion line comes after the interrogation when Kylo continues to be confused about Rey in general and Snoke senses an unusual conflict and uncertainty in Kylo over her.

I think there's actually evidence that Kylo is missing memories himself. It's the easiest way to explain why he feels drawn to her but doesn't know why. He may have even done it to himself if he's the one who put Rey on Jakku and/or tampered with her memories too. That's assuming he cared for her once and had the task of killing her and couldn't do it. I'd argue he'd want to erase his own memories of her and that event to protect her from himself, and to ensure Snoke couldn't pluck the knowledge of what he did from his mind.

The vision sequence also mentions Rey seeing a "a boy" briefly. First she's in Bespin and she can see Vader and Luke dueling, then she hears someone calling her name and replies "Hello?" That's when she sees 'a boy' at the end of a hallway I think, before it transitions into the academy attack. Oddly enough, the novel doesn't specify that Kylo sees her and approaches her in that vision, like he does in the movie.

 

May I just maybe point to this thread in the spoiler forum where the novelization is already discussed at length.

 

It took between Episode IV and Episode V for Vader to find out that Luke was his son. Wasn't there a comic recently depicting this? I think the idea here is that Ben becomes aware at the very end just like Vader later became aware of his connection to this new enemy.

 

That sounds like some majorly important foreshadowing. Definitely a mistake to delete it. There were enough hints on the Han and Leia end about Rey, but I think there was something missing in the Kylo-Rey connection. I figured he was shocked by her power, but they could've at least implied that he knew who this 'girl' was.

Also, I am livid that they deleted Poe and Rey meeting. Their one and only meeting, in a film where people are constantly meeting for fan-service alone, two of the three major new characters never meet. Despite being in the same place at the same time. Just bizarre. It's almost like JJ didn't notice they never actually meet.

 

She hears the voice... " THAT voice..:" and what steps out from the trees from a different direction is Kylo.

You're right. Holy hell.

 

Maybe he recognises a familiarity in the Force... but can't quite figure it out. He simply doesn't recognise her, because she's been hidden out on Jakku since she was a little child.

That seems like a perfectly sound explanation for things... and explains why Han doesn't recognise her (he's not exactly in tune with the Force), and why Leia does (she is the daughter of Anakin afterall).

 

also there are some lines of snoke and it says "i've watched the rise and fall of the empire" so he most be a bit old ah

 

I'm thinking that Kylo saved her during the academy massacre. He couldn't kill his little cousin, so he hid her on Jakku (and maybe mindwiped her) to hide his "failure" from Snoke and the other Knights. His reaction on hearing about the "girl" was enough to make me think this; the novel bit just helps solidify that opinion.

 

Imagine if Rey's adoptive parent took her and abandoned her on Jakku because they thought she was cursed, like she was doing crazy force sh*t around the house and just freaked them the hell out xD

 

Well I am not sure Han and Leia don't know who she is. There were a lot of knowing, silent looks towards Rey. When Han offered her a job there I was picking up something more than "you seem handy."

The voice when she is sent to Jakku before Unkar takes her away sounds distorted almost like Kylo. So maybe he get her out before he went back and betrayed the others.

 

I just have a hard time seeing any adopted guardians ditch her in such a hopeless position (same thing for her real parents, for that matter); if Luke wanted to protect his daughter, the best way to do that would be to keep her close, not hand her off to others. I'm thinking that he thought she was dead (along with the mother) before he went into exile. Kylo doing it adds to the conflict in his character (from his PoV, it's a sin come back to haunt him), explains why he seemed to recognize Rey from the first mention and absolves anyone of guilt for leaving her in such a nasty place. It's simpler, too, since it won't require much explanation.

And I agree with everything you wrote in that final paragraph. I'd only add that her vision seemed to sum up the Skywalker legacy and her place in it.

 

I've just had a thought. As we discussed in another thread, i'm pretty sure Snoke says last of the Knights of Ren. What if Kylo actually killed them to protect Rey right after the academy slaughter then told Snoke he was the only survivor. Probably not but it's another possibility.

 

I'm fairly certain he calls him "Master of the Knights of Ren", not "last."
I was watching a cam recording of that scene a few times, and that's how it sounded to me.

 

I watched the cam recorded leaked scene many times too. It sounded like last to me. Obviously i could be wrong but i'm fairly certain.
Does anyone know what it says in the novelization?.