SPECULATION OFFICIAL Rey Discussion Thread

In honesty, I don't know. I've been sitting on this for a few months now, waiting for similar info to leak by other news sites, perhaps to provide some credibility. Some MSW rumors have seemed to line up somewhat, which is why I decided to post now. And thanks for the welcome.

 

I'm sorry for off-topic, but what is this Act 1, Act 2 and so on stuff about?
Is that some official dissection of the SW Episode or what is that?

Because I know from a story standpoint, that the story is comprised of acts, but never heard this in relation to casual SW discussing.
Sounds more to me like fake leakers trying to get a sense of credibilty that they read the script labeled with said so acts.

PS: Geez, I am actually a crusader against fake leaks, didn't said anything positive here yet in regards to spoilers

 

It is different than what we have been reading so it's cool to read whether reliable or not. I would enjoy that. Try to dig for info on how serkis character knows the force as per his dialogue in the teaser trailer

 

This opening act is now JJ approved.

And then, in ACT III, we will find out Rey is Luke's daughter, he thought to be dead in her's mother womb.
Somehow rescued by the tribe and Andy Circus' character

 

A lot of that seems feasible outside of the Serkis thing considering most rumors are pointing towards him being the main villain.

There is three Lupita rumors
MSW's Lupita "Rose"
King's Lupita "Bar Owner"
Kyle's Lupita "Politician"

 

Mars Phoenix's Lupita "BB-8"

 

First just pointing out those are not necessarily exclusive. "Rose" could be a bar owner/politician.

You also left off the "she is playing a 70ish year old orange skinned alien that sounds enough like Ahsoka Tano to be false.
And the what is she is playing Asajj Ventriss speculation.

 

I thought both of those rumors had been too thoroughly debunked to be even worth mentioning

 

Could be plausable about Andy watcing over Rey instead of MvS. But then again anything is possible.

I keep leaning towards MvS being the baddie anyway.

Anyway welcome to the forum. Something new to read and reflect on.

 

Well the Asajj Ventriss idea was suggested and some people like it some don't.

As for is she Ahsoka it was suggested but recently it was floated recently that she was playing an orange skinned woman in her 70' (the story did not say Ahsoka).

I mean this in with the uptmost respect . . . you refer to things being "debunked" what source debunks them I mean if just us liking or not like an idea or certain posters from various sites who have sources of varying credibility. I guess my skepticism is such that there is almost no proof of anything. I think some rumors are old and persist like "Driver is a villan." But other than Rey being in a desert riding a speeder and Boyega being a Stormtrooper what can we actual 100 say is true and or false. Such certainty suggests proof which I haven't seen trust me I would love to see it.

 

Like the Rose theory, the two don't have to be exclusive. Both could be watching over her. Not part of the rumor, just my own two cents.

 

It's a fair point but I'm a firm believer in the "if there's smoke there's fire." If Driver is universally being called the villain I assume he is the villain. I just put more stock into rumors then other people. I also like ideas that don't have rumors supporting them such as Gleeson as Skywalker and The Third Order, and when I mention them I say it is basically my speculation. When I say something or another is debunked or unlikely I'm not saying 100% (except for stuff like Pip being Kylo Ren) since we don't have anything that can 100% be confirmed (not even Boyega being a stormtrooper for certain people). But if I have trust in something above say 65% then I am inclined to defend its truth.

People are allowed to have differing opinions on plot points then me I just expect them to be willing to explain their point, and if they want to sway me it has to be in a convincing manner. I haven't been convinced that often, Joe and his Plageuis theory is a good example of a time I was swayed by an argument. I never make a point that I'm not willing to defend

 

That makes sense . . . from a certain point of view

I am just worried that there is a gold mine of info I am missing out on when people say things like "we know" or "that has been debunked."

 

Only time most things can be debunked is when the movie comes out and it's not there. Cause not much can be verified with how tight this production has been.

 

Part of it comes across as referential of this. Which anyone could have read before but if the concept wasn't discarded it could be a part of the movie or backstory to the movie.

http://makingstarwars.net/2014/10/concept-star-wars-episode-vii-muppet-babies/

 

Interesting... very interesting.

What do you think about this @Viral Hide?

I went ahead and changed the tag to "Spoiler" since this has a lot of detail and may come to pass.

 

I think it's really interesting to.hear new opinions, whether they end up in the film or not. I haven't thought of Andy Serkis' character as anything other than a villain. Perhaps THE villain of TFA. It just opens my eyes to all kinds of cool prospects. One of the best things about the cantina is that you get so many different opinions and original ideas from everyone.

 

I agree. This opinion is pretty grounded as well. That’s why I like it. Nothing in it is really a “Reach” or anything that can be easily debunked. I think its good we read it too, because it would feel strange after reading all these theories to walk in to TFA and go “Serkis is just a tiny alien thing???” and be disappointed inside for a split second before continuing to be in awe of the movie.
Im interested to know what gives this little alien knowledge of the force though. He obviously “feels” the force as per his dialogue in the teaser. Serkis’ character that is. What little alien on Tatooine feels the force and why? He has Luke’s lightsaber and feels the force at the same time. Seems a tad dangerous to me.
Unless…he is a former associate of younger Luke, or one of his old buddies and Luke gives it to him to hold on to. Maybe Luke says the lines Serkis says in the trailer and Serkis character simply repeats what Luke told him when giving up the lightsaber.


Luke: “Hold on to this. There is one coming, whom you know well, who will need it. I must go.”


Serkis’ alien. “Why must you leave? Can’t you deliver it? It looks dangerous”


Luke: “You always had that hidden instinct, my friend. Something has awakened. Have you felt it? The dark side…and the light. I must go!”


Serkis little alien then simply repeats what Luke said when delivering the lightsaber later on? I dunno.

 

Hm, a massive dose of salt of course.

What I find interesting is that it implies that Serkis' character is good (or at least not evil), when it was officially confirmed that Serkis' voice was the one used in the teaser was it not?

It certainly sounded evil in the teaser, but it could also just be a low-spoken force-sensitive blue alien that had been tortured and was exhausted, while making a revelation. Interesting.