SPECULATION OFFICIAL Rey Discussion Thread

That's always the mystery,her mother.

 

No but if is not explained in the movie, with literal words said by a character then is bad writing.

I swear this generation deserved the Prequels, more and more i think Lucas knew the audience he was dealing with.

 

Coming from my 5th viewing.

Every single viewing i see or hear something new.

I can swear that in the Forest scene when Rey is about to be captured by Kylo Ren after shot some storm troopers, you hear a woman's voice whispering "REY" like a warning.

Am i crazy? somebody else caught that?

 

If is indeed true, i need confirmation i'm starting to wondering if Rey's mother was a sith or a secret Jedi, maybe could appear as a force ghost in the next movies.

But could be Maz Kanata, she felt that Rey and BB-8 were in danger, so if she can feel it she might be able to communicate with Force Sensitive people

 

Missed that.

Oh well, just means I'll have to go back for a 5th viewing

 

I seen something where someone was saying her mother was Phasma. While I guess that it could be worked out, it kind of shrinks the galaxy rather than expands it.

 

3rd viewing tomorrow I shall keep my ears pricked..........

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There is a kind of upright stone, its hard to make out if its the natural landscape or set design. Remember Skellig St. Micheal is a proper monastery.

 

You are NOT crazy....Is true.In that scene "something" happen.I love Rey vision at Maz Castle.It had a LOT of information there.I notice that SOMEBODY(looks like one Constable Zuvio to me)TRY to kill Rey BUT Kylo kill the person.I don't know if somebody else notice that too....

 

What if Luke being Rey's father isn't presented as a twist and instead the twist is that Rey's mother is a daughter or granddaughter of Palpatine and Talzin?

 

C'mon guys you KNOW Rey is Luke's daughter.

1) It's a Skywalker legacy. The most obvious through line connecting characters and being repeated in a slightly different way within the Hero's Journey.

2) Just look at how Han and Leia behave around her. With Han it's like he's thinking: "Oh blast I think I know who this girl is, I'll leave it to Luke to break it to her." and Leia hugs her at the end after meeting her for the first time? Ok maybe she's saying thanks for helping us but theres more there. Oh and Leia walks right past Chewie like some homeless dog, wtf lol. I can't wait to edit that and paste the scene of them hugging from earlier. Anyway Leia sends Rey to go by herself to bring the lightsaber to Luke. Hmmm. Leia knows who she is.

3) It's a movie made for CHILDREN and FAMILIES. Keep it simple. If Rey isn't related to anyone we know, now we gotta answer more q's & blast get's complex.

4) Why would they just nonchalantly reveal Kylo's lineage and so early? Because 2 big reveals would be too much even if the 2nd gets revealed in VIII. Rey's lineage is the big surprise as will Snoke's history be.

5) Luke's lightsaber chose her. All the coincidences in all 7 films are usually because of the will of the Force, guiding paths in a specific direction. Even the trailer with Luke's voice saying "You have that power too." and Rey is the next thing they show: is another dead giveaway.

 

Pablo Hidalgo has already confirned that the person in the vision is not Constable Zuvio.

 

She must be Luke's daughter. Someone else brought up a good point that the real question is who was Rey's mother? She's the Jon Snow of the Star Wars Universe.

 

think about the reveal in the next movie...

the reveal, whatever it is, will work better if it's unexpected - a "twist".
How is Rey being Luke's daughter a twist... like, at all?
it is completely expected now. so where's the surprise?

if Rey is Luke's daughter, why did the filmmakers go to the trouble of making her validate herself so strongly throughout the movie, and especially in the presence of Luke himself?

in other words, when Luke and Rey meet, she has sought him out (validation 1). but has also brought with her the lost lightsaber (validation 2).

i honestly see in TFA, after 4 viewings, that a new kind of precedent is being set.
the filmmakers are trying to show us new and wondrous things that the force can do.

They want to show us new phenomena. after all, the force is being personified in the name of the film itself.
this is not an accident.
they want to show us new ways in which the force works, and acts of its own accord - how it imbues people with its special powers.

in other words, if Rey is our new Jedi. and Luke was our last Jedi... and he is in hiding... then, they would need to place certain phenomena in the film in order to lead the new pupil to the master.

some will see this as "solving a plot inconvenience". i see it as an "opportunity".

in other words, because Luke is not there to pass on the wisdom at the get-go, the filmmakers had to create a character that would work throughout the film to show their worthiness. a character that would be validated and liked by the audience, and also by the other chacracters in the film.

it is clear to me that they went to a tremendous effort to do so with Rey.

and, if this is the case, then i feel that Rey's parentage, then, when all is said and done, became inconsequential to the script of TFA.
thus they already had a character that would be "valid" and "worthy", regardless of where they came from and who they came from.

and, whether anyone wants to agree with me or not -- Having Rey be "by necessity" related to Luke or Obi-Wan, diminishes her strength as a protagonist. you have to imagine that it diminishes her strength in the eyes of producer Kathleen Kennedy.

and, ultimately, to solve the riddle, you have to see this partly through that lens.
to remove the burden of fandom, and see it as a studio house decision...

in the biggest movie franchise of all time, KK had an opportunity to either a) create a new kind of hero, or b) create a daughter with a (likely) dead mother, reliant on the father for her strengths...

hmmmmm......

 

I thought so too, but I was wondering if that is the standard "resistance" infantryman. I also don't think he is trying to kill Rey, she is just looking up at him whilst he runs away from Kylo. we've seen the Pilots and some of the "behind the scenes" guys, but not much of what the general foot troop of the resistance look like, then in that way that Helmet resembles the old rebel footsoldier slightly too. But yes, it may be of more importance and Zuvio. This battle I feel is going to happen in IX, rather than VIII. if it's not a past vision.

Please correct me if I'm wrong and there's anything extra in the new reference books or merchandising, that point to Resistance Infantry visuals.


+ Probably already been heard but after the bespin hallway in Rey's vision (which is the exact same hallway from Empire) you can hear luke's "nooo, noo" in the mix after the father reveal, before and whilst it switches to the R2-D2/Luke by the campfire bit.

 

I'm finding some good nuggets of info on starwars.com. Apologies if this has already been posted.

"Rey grew up on Jakku, eking out a life as a scavenger and hoping that one day whoever had left her on the barren desert world would return." I know if the film she says family, but this could be saying that maybe someone else dropped her off. Maybe she was training with Luke and he dropped her off before his exile but is not her actual father. It could also just be stating that her family is unknown at this point.

 

There's definatley whispering sound almost like parcel mouth all the way through the movie regarding Rey here too. Not sure what it is. Maybe its just background sounds.

 

There was more of Rey having difficulties, like with Unkar Plutt at Maz's place where Chewie helps out, but it was left on the cutting room floor. That scene in particular perhaps for the various ratings systems (MPAA, BBFC, etc.).