SPECULATION OFFICIAL Rey Discussion Thread

The speculation that Unkar Plutt is supposed to be "looking after Rey" is not very viable. Your post demonstrated this. We also have to remember that they cut out the scene where Unkar follows Rey to Takodana to reclaim the Falcon and Chewie has to help her out. I don't think the writers were considering Unkar to be anything but a thug and overlord.

 

I think this is problematic too particularly for the mind reading aspect. Not to say he wouldn't have known, but I think something would've came up there when the two of them were sort of mind melding during Kylo's attempted interrogation.

Still you have the problem of Han finding out she was put on Jakku and her being around at the Jedi temple. There's no indication Han and Leia were some how separated from Luke's new Jedi and that the latter were off in seclusion until Ben helped destroy everything.

 

Unkar plutt is pointing to Watto in the TPM which once again leads to Anakin.

 

I maybe completely dumb but I just don't find any clue who links Luke and Rey as father and daughter ...

 

Just as long as Rey wasn't conceived by the midifrickenchlorian

 

i find it disheartening to keep reading, over and over, that Rey's lineage would "help explain" her Force abilities.
when all the explanation that will be given is already out there (in my humble opinion).

the general thinking around here seems to be "there's no way she's that strong in the Force unless she's related to so-and-so."

and i get it. because this is how it's always been, in canon. up to this point.

but, guys, canon is changing..... swiftly so.
and we must acknowledge the new possibilities that are being explored in The Force...

Pablo Hidalgo and the story group have already started explaining the things we see in TFA ----

From the Visual Dictionary:
"Since the disappearance of Luke Skywalker and the shattering of his fledgling Jedi following, the cosmic Force has lain dormant, seemingly quieted to those able to sense its presence. The adventures of Rey and Finn on Jakku coincide with a turbulence in the cosmic Force, a sudden ripple indicating the awakening of newfound ability. With the Jedi and their records vanished, few - other than Kylo Ren and his mysterious master - are able to appreciate this occurrence."

so..... can i please please stop reading NEW posts that say anything about "Rey was trained by Luke as a 4 year old and then memory wiped."

it ALREADY goes against the timeline.
and it also goes against the literature that we are being provided to accompany the film.

the canon clearly says "newfound" ability.
whether they are speaking about Rey, in particular, or speaking about "new powers available to any force user", either interpretation of this text goes a long way towards explaining things...

but no one seems to be seeing the bigger picture here.

They've set up this entire movie around this premise. And even named it such.
Why has the story group gone to these lengths, only to "undo" their work in the next episode and make Rey an "inheritor" of Force abilities.
just to disguise that she is Luke's?
are you kidding me? you create an entire Force phenomenon. show that as how Rey becomes FS. show new abilities being used.
just to keep a secret that everyone sees coming anyway.
yeah... right...

Nope.
The simple truth is, the story group are beginning to sculpt a new lore around The Force.
So that they will have a future-proof franchise on their hands.
One that does not sit squarely on the shoulders of Luke and Leia in order to live on.
They have to do this eventually, guys.

Yes, I am aware, Kathleen Kennedy told us all that this will continue the Skywalker story.
Everything I saw in TFA meets that description, guys, regardless of who Rey turns out to be.

i feel crazy, how i can feel so compelled to see this as the way things are going.
and so few other people here can even be bothered to give it a second thought.
it's crazy to me.

 

I'm not sure how anyone can watch this and not agree that she's the central character. It's like saying Luke isn't the central character of A New Hope. Agree to disagree I guess. I don't know who her parents are, but it seems pretty reasonable to believe she's either a Solo or Skywalker. It would be quite a twist if it's something else.

My guess is there's another event in there we haven't learned about yet. Most likely Kylo killing the former master of the Knights of Ren. Other than his betrayal of Luke his rise to becoming the master of the Knights of Ren is a huge event.

 

Rey is R2-D2's daughter. That's why she can repair ships, fly ships and speak droid.

 

Yes, respectfully agree to disagree. But I think it's chalked up to peoples' personal introspection and how they project that to the characters on the screen. I did not come out of the movie thinking Rey would be the only central character of the trilogy, I came out of it thinking there were at least three, Finn, Rey and Kylo.

It's possible, but not necessary for him to have killed a master of the Knights of Ren. When they introduced the "Ren" title they likened it to the "Darth" title so it's entirely plausible Snoke is behind all this and created a new Dark side tradition as a motif to hide his actions before striking and attempting to destroy Luke and the New Jedi.

 

I am not trying to rehash things from earlier (This thread has so many pages that I honestly don't have time to read all of them)
But, I watched the movie again yesterday (6th and final time).

I have to side with the guys stating that it would be against the timeline for Luke to have trained her. I side with the theory that in the lightsaber duel the force is guiding her through most of it (well after she closes her eyes) Mostly because before that point she was fighting him as if she was fighting with her staff.f

Now, what I think is unique is that by the end of the battle she has the Dark side running through her, you can tell by the way she moves and by the way she strikes. She almost paces after she cuts his shoulder and he stumbles (and as we know in the Novel she was hearing someone (snoke?) telling her to kill him)

Which leads to an interesting question? How much will the dark Side pull on her in VIII.

Personally, the idea of her going dark and then a redemption in IX, has always sounded awesome to me.

 

Key Word(s): "EXPANDED UNIVERSE."

 

the last 5 minutes of TFA is doing my head in!!! lol

not in a negative way - not at all. after reading the last 20 pages of this thread to catch up.. i have decided to go watch the film again tonight. you guys are costing me a fortune! lol (but thanks)

I don't know who Rey is, and no matter what option you guys picked in the pole at the top of this thread... i'm not really convinced you do either

so this is what's bugging me..
The entire film everyone is looking for Luke... bad guys and good guys.
Leia meets Rey for the first time.. ignores Chewie who is obviously devastated and hugs her outside the falcon.
R2 wakes up and puts together the map with bb8.
who goes to find Luke??? they send Rey. Rey????

i just don't get it.. after looking for him all this time and it being so critical that they find him.. wouldn't Leia go herself?

the only thing that passes for a reason here for me is if Leia knows who Rey is.. and more importantly that its now better for her to go find him.

edit: also.. chewie and r2 leave Rey to go up to find Luke on her own at the island. so do they know who she is too? #confused

i suspect this will eat away at me till next year *sob* lol

 

I'm going to the who cares card ? Who are Kenobi's parents, Ahsoka's one, Mace Windu's one, Yoda's one.


Nobody cares about that.

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 8, 2016, Original Post Date: Jan 8, 2016 ---

The first time we wee Leia it's on Takodana, Han told her : I saw him, I saw our son, he never mentionned the girl being kidnapped by his son. Not one time. And if Finn didn't lie to get to the Starkiller base, he wouldn't have done anything for Rey nor Leia who never mentionned her name.

 

Point? The New EXPANDED UNIVERSE is considered canon. Still, even if you disregard the old, it's pretty logically evident that EVERY Jedi did not agree with and follow the traditions. Qui-Gon Jin is an example, not regarding marriage and attachment, but regarding not agreeing with Jedi tradition apart from just being in tune with the light side. Kanan in Star Wars: Rebels, again part of canon, is another. He seems to have a pretty strong attachment, love, to Hera.

 

The point is that I thought you were talking about the OLD EU, as I wasnt aware the new one is still called An EU .