SPECULATION Other, surviving Jedi?

Interesting topic.

For sure! Some Jedi survived the massacre of Order 66 but they all were hunted down by the empire during the events of the OT. => Yoda to Luke: "[...]the last of the Jedi you will be."

I think some students survived. => Snoke: "If Skywalker returns the new Jedi will rise."
Probably, some Jedi were able to escape and yet others maybe joined Kylo Ren and the KoR.

If the "other" surviving Jedi are now members of the KoR, then yes, we will see them. If not? I don't know.

 

Didnt't Snoke say Luke was the last jedi ?

 

Well... so far as we know:

So far we know a padawan (Kanan) and a rogue padawan (Ahsoka) survived ROTS. We have some other that might have survived further as well, obeying Kenobi's beacon but they might have gotten lured to the traps set up by Vader and his inquisitors (like the one with master Luminara) and succumbed. We have this mysterious prisoner killed by Eneb Ray at Sunspot Prison who mentioned have killed Jedi.

It would be interesting to find out that yeah, there were survivors.

I recall mentioning on another thread that it might depend on which kind of Jedi academy Luke had. Was it like a secluded monks order? Or was it some sort of galactic Hogwarts where students were able to go back and forth to their places of origin or maybe to go on missions looking for more Jedi lore? Maybe if they found out their peers were killed and their master vanished, they might be still hiding. After all, that massacre might have happened pretty much recently - no more than 6 years before TFA.

Hope so! I guess it is way more probability on seeing any potential survivors from the Jedi Academy massacre than from Order 66, but if there is any chance Ahsoka is still alive around ANH-ROTJ or even later on I won't complain at all!! Lol.

 

Ahsoka is a force user she's not a jedi no more. She left the order.

 

I remember hearing a while ago that there were something like 10,000 jedi, including padawans, knights, and masters, before the Order 66 and in 19 years, with vader being mainly the one to personally hunt the all down and with the reversal of the retreat code in the temple I would think there would be AT LEAST 15% - 20% of all jedi left in the galaxy by the time of the OT. What if we didn't see them because Leia was secretly trying to recruit them with Obi-Wan's help before he died which is why she needed his help so badly. Maybe Luke even tried to find them if they were still alive after ROTJ. The survival of Luke's new academy is pretty much dependent on how many jedi he was trining/if they were fully-trained/or whatnot. And maybe the old survivors helped the new generation but those are a LOT of bodies in that massacre flashback. So far the only surviving jedi we have seen is Ben.

 

We do know that, thanks. I am talking more about the period between ROTJ and TFA. Probably she was done in Malachor but in any case that she survived, went into reclusive mode until Palpatine and Vader were gone, what if she sensed her master again and Luke found her and she helped him in some way to set up his Jedi Academy? I know it is a way big speculation here but we don't know yet.

 

But she was still trained as a jedi...maybe thats become more of a blanket term due to the lack of actual jedi from the order because,

That's if she hasn't even died from natural causes .

 

What do the novels tell about this ?

I think Luke is the last jedi, there is no more of them.

 

So far the novels are silent about it.

And yeah, it throws me off since I think about Yoda's statement about Luke being "the last of the Jedi" but since we are in this "from a certain point of view" universe where something seems one way and it ends up being a different thing, I don't know what the Story Group might come up with.

 

I'd say the opening crawl of TFA ("Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the Empire and will not rest until Skywalker, the last Jedi, has been destroyed.") implies strongly that he's the only Jedi alive, but you're right--there's wiggle room if TPTB really want another remaining Jedi somewhere that we don't know about.

My guess is that there could be those out there (similar to Ahsoka, Kanan, etc.) still alive who had Jedi training under the old formal Jedi system but are not strictly considered Jedi. The same could go for those who were in Luke's new not-academy, who somehow escaped the destruction. However, my impression from Bloodline was that there were only a few people in Luke's not-academy to start with, as it wasn't a formal "school"-type arrangement but rather more of a gathering of "disciples," as it were.

 

Maybe they can spin it into the last of the jedi "TRAINED BY YODA.'

 

Not trying to switch the conversation...but if you had the option, do you want to find out about another Jedi? Or would you rather have Luke be the last one?

 

Depends on which timeframe you ask.

Post-ROTJ? Of course I'd be more than happy to have Kanan, Ezra and Ahsoka around. Don't know how that can be justified, how come they didn't appear on the main events from ANH to ROTJ but there might be a way.

Post-TFA? Not sure. Maybe FS people who was under training and went to hiding since their master vanished and the First Order started rising.

 

Like Maz Kanata? I personally feel that leading up to and after TFA Luke being the only one makes the story more personal.

Post ROTJ we already know of Yoda, Ben, Kanan, Ezra, and Ahsoka I have no doubt that more will come out of hiding,

Personally I just don't want more Jedi for the sake of having Jedi, I want them to have an actual meaningful story.

 

I would rather have Luke be the last Jedi. That makes Yoda's words in the OT make sense and doesn't need a whole lot of extrapolating and "certain point of view" hand-waving attached to it.

However, I don't mind other people being FS or having a bit of training. But I really prefer Luke to be the one guy who's a full-fledged Jedi. (And I wouldn't mind if he changes things up a bit in how he "passes on what he's learned" from how Jedi did it in the past. But that's a whole 'nother topic. )

 

Personally, as I have been watching TCW, I would definitely love that Luke meets Ahsoka or some other remaining not-fully trained Jedi that could help him to start his Jedi Academy. Or maybe Kanan left the fight for any reason and came back when the Empire was defeated. I don't know, maybe it's me finding these characters so endearing that it's hard to believe they were no more around by the time the DS plans were stolen...