1. Due to the increased amount of spam bots on the forum, we are strengthening our defenses. You may experience a CAPTCHA challenge from time to time.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Notification emails are working properly again. Please check your email spam folder and if you see any emails from the Cantina there, make sure to mark them as "Not Spam". This will help a lot to whitelist the emails and to stop them going to spam.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. IMPORTANT! To be able to create new threads and rate posts, you need to have at least 30 posts in The Cantina.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. Before posting a new thread, check the list with similar threads that will appear when you start typing the thread's title.
    Dismiss Notice

SPECULATION Pet Theories?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Use the Falchion, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. mwmike11

    mwmike11 Clone

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Posts:
    5
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    2
    Credits:
    392
    Ratings:
    +9 / 0 / -0
    Before you roll your eyes and click away, I want to TL;DR this by saying, I don't think she's Obi-Wan's granddaughter, or Luke's daughter, or Snoke's third cousin, or Anakin Reborn, or any other dumb theory out there. This is completely and totally new, just sheer speculation with no real evidence to back it up. Enjoy!

    Rey was born to Force-strong parents on Jakku. Once their daughter started showing strength in the Force far beyond their own, and after years of hearing rumors from passing pilots and scavengers of a hero from the Rebellion trying to reinstate the Jedi Order, they leave Rey in the care of Unkar Plutt, telling her they will return one day. She is about 5 or 6.

    After many close encounters with the pirates and charlatans claiming to be Jedi, they find Luke. They don't immediately tell him of Rey, fearing he was a fake or not, instead seeking only his training for themselves which they could pass along to Rey. After years with Luke and Ben, and some times with Han, Leia, and Chewie, they confide that they do have a daughter back home, though only entrusting her location to Luke, as Ben has slowly started falling under the influence of Snoke (this is piquing Luke's worst suspicions, that some of Vader is still in Ben). Rey's parents die when Ben falls to the Dark Side, at his hands when they refuse to tell him where their daughter is.

    Luke travels to Jakku. He watches Rey from afar, sensing that she is indeed very strong in the Force, nearly as strong as himself and Yoda, despite her ignorance of the Force itself. Because it is far too dangerous to bring her off-world, what with the rise of the First Order and Snoke's Knights of Ren, Luke entrusts Rey's safety to an old ally from the early days of the New Republic, Lor San Tekka, as well as the final piece of the map to his location, telling him that should the day come that he is needed, that is where he can be found.

    When Han eventually meets up with Finn and Rey, and hearing she is from Jakku, he starts suspecting that she might be the daughter of the two Force-wielders he once knew, all-but confirmed once he meets up with Maz Kanata. Kylo Ren discovers this to be the truth when he is fighting with her on Starkiller Base, hence the line "it is you, isn't it?" from the novelization (and film, if I'm not mistaken).
    --- Double Post Merged, Nov 2, 2016, Original Post Date: Nov 2, 2016 ---

    I saw someone on another page that mentioned the possibility that BDT might be Rey's father and that he left her on Jakku for some reason. As mentioned in my pet theory above, I don't quite believe that, but it's an interesting possibility.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Original Original x 2
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  2. egkenobi

    egkenobi Rebel Commander

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2015
    Posts:
    60
    Likes Received:
    133
    Trophy Points:
    2,767
    Credits:
    874
    Ratings:
    +176 / 2 / -0
    I wish I could tag this as something I like, but I'm not allowed to yet, but that's an awesome theory. And it also sounds more plausible than some of the stuff that's lurking on the internet. Also notice its your second post here, so welcome to the Cantina :)
     
    • Like Like x 2
  3. mwmike11

    mwmike11 Clone

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Posts:
    5
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    2
    Credits:
    392
    Ratings:
    +9 / 0 / -0
    Thanks! There are still a few stickle points I'm trying to figure out (why her parents would leave her with Plutt), but like you said, it's 1000% more likely than half the theories out there, and I sure like it more than Luke being her father.
     
  4. Ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi

    Ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi Rebel Official

    Joined:
    May 5, 2016
    Posts:
    711
    Likes Received:
    1,186
    Trophy Points:
    7,392
    Credits:
    2,509
    Ratings:
    +1,630 / 25 / -6
    I know this theory is highly unpopular, but I subscribe to the idea that Rey is the incarnation of Anakin Skywalker.

    If you have ever watched "Avatar: The Last Airbender" this will make more sense, but I think it would be a highly provocative and interesting concept if the Living Force chooses a "chosen one" every few generations to help balance itself. Thus, Anakin was not the first and Rey will not certainly be the last.

    This theory is a great way to continue a super narrative that exceeds the 9-film cycle without having to necessarily rely on the Skywalker bloodline. Anakin was born of a virgin. Perhaps Rey was too. And yet, both characters are still "connected" because they have the same soul (or whatever the story group decides to call it.

    (Another bonus: for those who did not appreciate Hayden Christensen's acting, this is a great way to reference Anakin without ever having to show his face again...)
    --- Double Post Merged, Nov 2, 2016, Original Post Date: Nov 2, 2016 ---
    There's a lot of fan theories swirling around the internet. With hundreds of great (and not so great) ideas in public view, it excites me to think some of them are correct.

    By the way, Egkenobi, I love your avatar picture. It's nice to see a fellow Obi Wan Kenobi fan.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. egkenobi

    egkenobi Rebel Commander

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2015
    Posts:
    60
    Likes Received:
    133
    Trophy Points:
    2,767
    Credits:
    874
    Ratings:
    +176 / 2 / -0
    Thanks, been a huge Obi-Wan fan since I saw Episode 4 as a kid :)

    As for your theory, I'm not sure Rey is the reincarnation of Anakin. Mainly because Disney seemed to want to distance themselves as much as possible from the prequel. (I still think Max Von Sydow's first line in the TFA is a dig at the prequel trilogy....)

    Also it would be a lazy way to do it I reckon. I'm not sure Rey is a Skywalker, I wonder if she's a Solo. But then JJ mentioned we'd not seen her parents in Episode 7 or they weren't in her life. So....

    She *could* be the daughter of Gallius Rex from the Aftermath trilogy, or possibly grand daughter, or she could be the result of some sort of Sith Alchemy. If you've not read the two Aftermath books, then I won't go too far in to it, but there's something on Jakku, and it's made me wonder.... Some suggest that Snoke took the Force from Skywalker somehow, what if he hid it in a random human who happened to be Rey? (But that's a foolish theory)

    There's a part of me that hopes Rey isn't a Skywalker or a Solo, because it would add a new dimension to the Star Wars galaxy and setting. Surely the Skywalker line isn't the only Force strong line in the galaxy? What about someone like Bastilla Shan? (Not sure on spelling) or other such characters from the Old Republic?

    I can't help but think that the Force saplings that were rescued have a hand in this somehow, but to what end I've not thought that long and hard about it yet ;-)

    I'm also wondering if Snoke is someone we've already seen? Especially in the prequel trilogy, but that's a theory for another time ;-)
     
    • Like Like x 3
  6. Bluemilk

    Bluemilk I AM the Senate

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2014
    Posts:
    4,552
    Likes Received:
    8,974
    Trophy Points:
    92,402
    Credits:
    12,243
    Ratings:
    +14,898 / 149 / -71
    The Knights of Ren are also Luke's former students
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Wise Wise x 1
  7. nightangel

    nightangel Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2015
    Posts:
    1,561
    Likes Received:
    2,029
    Trophy Points:
    7,592
    Credits:
    4,057
    Ratings:
    +3,509 / 217 / -41
    nice theories and I understand the wish to broaden the SW universe, but for this we have the anthology movies + new families/characters in the ST like Poe Dameron, Maz and Finn. ;)
     
    • Like Like x 2
  8. Grand Master Galen Marek

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2015
    Posts:
    22,123
    Likes Received:
    101,677
    Trophy Points:
    176,317
    Credits:
    48,394
    Ratings:
    +115,549 / 340 / -131
    Yep that could be, Luke needs to humble his strayed pets.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
  9. Darth Basin The Greatest

    Darth Basin The Greatest Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2016
    Posts:
    2,001
    Likes Received:
    2,603
    Trophy Points:
    8,842
    Credits:
    4,014
    Ratings:
    +4,431 / 293 / -150
    All these theories r great.

    But thier is 1 thing I'd like to finally c in a SW movie and I know I'm not the only one.







    A bathroom.
     
    #49 Darth Basin The Greatest, Jan 17, 2017
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2017
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Like Like x 1
  10. Kasrat Pulsarflame

    Kasrat Pulsarflame Clone Trooper

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2017
    Posts:
    33
    Likes Received:
    62
    Trophy Points:
    52
    Credits:
    557
    Ratings:
    +82 / 0 / -0
    - Snoke is the reason for the research facilities on Jakku and Palpatine's interest in the Unkown Regions.

    - Rey is the grandaughter of Obi-Wan and Satine AND Luke's daughter.

    - We'll be going back to Jakku by the end of Episode IX.

    - Force Tree on Act-Tho will give us nice new "history of the force" montage.

    - As soon as Episode VIII is out, we'll be hit with a plethora of Snoke, Luke and Knights of Ren EU books/comics.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  11. mwmike11

    mwmike11 Clone

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Posts:
    5
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    2
    Credits:
    392
    Ratings:
    +9 / 0 / -0
    Hey everyone! It's been a while since I first visited with this theory, but I wanted to return with an alternate theory I thought up on the drive home today.

    I know folks have wanted Rey to be Luke's daughter, but I've railed against it solely because I HATE the idea that he would abandon her on Jakku. But...what if...what if during the 30 year period between ROTJ and TFA, Luke, Han and Leia have a few adventures and meet a fellow smuggler. They going on adventures, do things against the Imperial holdouts (those that didn't leave the known galaxy) and whatnot. Luke and this newcomer become close and eventually sleep together. However, shortly after this, she's forced to leave because of her shadowy past involving pirates (whether it's a debt to the Hutts, Kanjiklub, whatever), and she's got the same stupid noble hang ups Luke has, leaving them behind to prevent them getting tangled in her past and coming into harm. She later finds out she's pregnant. Eventually, she winds up on Jakku and begins working for Unkar Plutt. Over the course of the next six years, she and Rey work to survive, even meeting Lor San Tekka. The pirates wind up finding this woman and she voluntarily leaves with them to protect Rey, who she leaves in the care of Unkar Plutt. Once Rey leaves Jakku and meets Han and Leia, they act weird around her because she looks shockingly like her mother. Luke eventually senses her presence in the Force, once it awakens within her, but refuses to go to her after what happened with Ben. When they finally meet at the end of The Force Awakens, though, he's fully ready to accept that he has a daughter who is very, very strong in the Force, continuing the Skywalker legacy.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  12. Darth Basin The Greatest

    Darth Basin The Greatest Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2016
    Posts:
    2,001
    Likes Received:
    2,603
    Trophy Points:
    8,842
    Credits:
    4,014
    Ratings:
    +4,431 / 293 / -150
    ^^^^^^^

    Nice 2 c there's a few Reywalker fans left. Great Reymom theory.

    I mean 4 all who say "I can't imagine Luke just abandoning his daughter".

    Well i can't imagine Luke living the same solitary monk lifestyle that doomed his father.

    LET THE JEDI LOVE!
     
  13. Star Dude

    Star Dude Jedi General

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2015
    Posts:
    947
    Likes Received:
    31,349
    Trophy Points:
    154,067
    Credits:
    28,170
    Ratings:
    +32,711 / 2 / -0
    Maz and Snoke were once married. But the couple broke up after Snoke spend too much time studying dark side artifacts in his unknown regions workshop, Maz was busy with running the pub, so both grew estranged more and more, and in the end they split (42 years before Anakin was born).
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  14. Pastor Barndog

    Pastor Barndog Force Attuned

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2014
    Posts:
    4,391
    Likes Received:
    5,585
    Trophy Points:
    16,317
    Credits:
    6,765
    Ratings:
    +9,458 / 246 / -104
    She left him for Chewy.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Wise Wise x 1
  15. mwmike11

    mwmike11 Clone

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Posts:
    5
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    2
    Credits:
    392
    Ratings:
    +9 / 0 / -0
    For the longest time, I wasn't a Reywalker fan, for that very reason. It didn't make sense, why would Luke abandon her on a hellscape like Jakku? And especially after Bloodline, why was Leia so concerned about what Ben finding out the truth of his grandfather, but not Rey? And if Luke knew about Rey and she was kidnapped, why the hell was he still gallivanting around the galaxy with his nephew instead of, you know, finding his daughter. My theory seemingly fills in all those holes, I think.

    It explains why Han and Leia seemed to recognize her, despite her never having met them (and explains away how she's, definitively, not their daughter, seeing as there are still a few of those theories around), too.
     
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
Loading...

Share This Page