SPECULATION plot speculation for Episode VIII

The darkside is always more powerful. In the golden age of the sith there wouldnt b a jedi that could hold a candle to the sith.

This is what makes jedis awesome. Like a Marine taking on an entire city, jedis will stand for justice even knowing they r going to die.

Qui-Gon knew he was outmatched hence taking a knee. Yoda went into hiding bcuz he knew the darkside was too powerful. Mace was overly confident and where did that get him? Sidious new Anakin would turn.

Sidious was the most powerful in the galaxy. Hes killed bcuz hes surprised by an enlightened Vader.

Hate strength will always be greater than peace strength but in the same breath due to their delusions of granduer will always get the better of them.

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Ps the awakening for me is Rey awakening and her inevitable turn to the darkside.

Y else would u need an awakening? Luke is awake. Kylo is awake. Snoke is awake. That blood line is to bring balance to the force. At this point Luke is the most force sensitive in the galaxy. Luke is now sidious ranking- # 1. Amd i hope they show it in fight scenes with Luke.

 

i would love to see Finn save Poe by force pushing Phasma or a stormtrooper away

 

"No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive."

 

Then why is it titled "The Force Awakens"? and why would they say " There has been an awakening." If you say Luke/Kylo/Snoke are awake? Rey didnt know about the force til she was attracted to it. They acknowledged it when they didnt want BB8 and took her. Cause she apparently has something that Snoke want, which is Luke. I feel like the light and dark is equal in who's powerful. its a path to take. I feel like the darkside isnt strong just cause they use the energy physically. with Darth Sidious he has the Darth Sith they were looking for and when he couldnt over power mace windu he made Anakin turn. with the Jedi you need time and with more Jedi's the force was stronger. Yoda held his own but knew at RotS the outcome of the jedi.

May the force be with you always...

 

Well done, Minch >

The quote fits. How else would u describe Rey's manipulation of the force? Quick and easy- no preperation.

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Great points. I still beleive that story-wise the unexpected i am ur father twist would b Rey turning to the darkside. What better ESB ending would you have for 8? Wed b left in utter shock like Empire did to us.

Plus, we've aleardy had a female heroine- Leia. We've never had a female antagonist. And Phasma is all and good but wouldnt hold a candle to a female apprentice.

Poe, Finn, and Rey is so familiar. Its Han, Leia and Luke. Luke is Rey here. If u want to shock the SW world and break that mold, its Rey to the darkside.

 

ESB didn't start with an action sequence.

However, I really like this idea that VII could open up with a good amount of time having passed. Would be pretty cool to see our new heroes already kicking some ass like they've been doing it for a while.

 

From the trailers I was seeing a lot of anger from Rey, but at the end I didn't get that feeling... her closing her eyes reminded me a lot of Qui-Gon vs Maul...

I tend to think that she is just really powerful (didn't they say something along those lines in the movie, powerful but untrained?), but that she would turn dark in VIII, kill Kylo and take his place, then Finn would have to step up... Maybe his love could be what turns her back (going against the Jedi no attachment policy)?

So you would have love turning Anakin to the dark side but turning Rey back to the light?

On the other hand Finn's crush on her reminds me a lot of Luke with Leia, so perhaps he won't end up with her...

 

Like ive posted in other threads, the look in Luke's face is utter dread when he sees Rey. Could it b that he was hoping for NE1 other than his daughter? Sure.

I feel that a better plot line is Luke learning from his experience with Kylo and knows this offspring is to close to their grandfather hence Rey's being dropped in the outer rims. Hence Rey attacking Kylo instead of vice versa. Hence Rey's fear, anger (that she was abandoned). Hate is the only step left. Will it come aboit when Luke or someone else reveals that he is her father? "You abandoned me!? Do you know what ive been through?! How much ive suffered!?"

 

that got thrown out the window when Anakin and Padame got together. Episode II was prolly the least favorite SW movie. From Rey and Finn, I dont think Finn has the force abilities.

May the force be with you always...

 

Love this a lot- A LOT. Theres always a love story to be had and this would b an awesome way to go about it. Props.

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Better than action scene. If that wampa scene didnt scare the crap out of u...

The hoth attack didnt come long after.

I agree that 8 should begin with an attack on the new order. The new order are essentially the "rebels" now and the resistance the "empire".

 

But that is what I mean, Anakin and Padmé eventually led to Darth Vader... Maybe now they could redeem the notion that love is not for Jedi...

And I do believe Finn is FS.

(Agree on Ep II, also my lowest)

 

They're closer in age than Han and Leia.

 

I think ep. VIII will take place pretty quickly after VII, maybe 6 months to a year. I like a lot of the ideas presented here, though I doubt we'll get much Leia, since I don't think Carrie Fisher can carry a movie at this point.

I would love a film that blurs the lines between good guys and bad. My will-never-happen plot outline:

In the chaos following the destruction of the Senate on Hosnian Prime, Benico del Torro's character arises as a charismatic leader of the Republic's remnant embarking on a militant campaign of vengeance against the F.O. We begin with a conference aboard a Republic cruiser between him, a wary Leia, and company, including Poe and Finn. That attractive British actress might make an appearance here as a politician or assistant and possible love interest for Finn. Good spot for a Lando cameo too. Powerful forces are gathering and a new offensive against the F.O. is imminent.

Rey trains under Luke on Skellig Michael. We get some good training scenes, discussions of the Force, and some more backstory about Ben's fall and Rey's origin (will not speculate on that here). Eventually Luke agrees to bring Rey along on a mission to recover an important artifact or text he's found clues about during his exile. Meanwhile Kylo Ren trains under Snoke and they discuss the threat of Luke and Rey. Using his newly refined powers, and perhaps sensing Rey when she's upset from learning about her past, Ren discovers where Rey is headed and sets off to confront her, (or Bounty Hunters tip him off). A bit of a treasure hunt/wilderness survival act ensues (basing this off of one of the films Rian Johhnson mentioned as inspiration for his script). Luke/Rey ultimately confront Ren (possibly the knights assembled) at an ancient Sith tomb or something, which contains some kind of ancient and immensely powerful artifact.

Concurrently, Poe and Finn take part in a major battle against F.O. forces with Hux and Phasma present. There are heavy losses and a lot of psychological stress (as in 12 O'clock High). During the battle Hux is captured and under interrogation (possibly torture ordered by B. del T.) reveals where Ren and Snoke are hunting Luke/Rey. Poe and Finn set off to reinforce them, arriving just in time to rescue the overmatched Jedi. Re-united with her friends, Rey is saddened to hear of all the losses suffered. B. del T. convinces her to join Republic forces in an all-out attack on the F.O. capital. Luke urges caution, but Rey does not listen.

Act III is an attack on the F.O. Rey leads an assault into an F.O. base displaying her Jedi skills. Using the artifact, Rey's powers allow her to overcome all enemies (or maybe some kind of battle meditation to bolster Republic forces). F.O. forces are overwhelmed and the planet is ready to fall as Rey finds herself in a command room confronted by Kylo. As they battle, Kylo points out all the chaos and devestation caused by the Republic attack, arguing that her side is just as "evil" as his, from his point of view. At this point B. del T. unleashes a massive bombardment of the planet's surface, including civilians (perhaps with a super weapon, chemical weapon, or other nastiness).

Not sure how exactly I'd end it, but I love the idea of Snoke turning on Kylo and taking on Rey as his apprentice, with Luke and company arriving to save Kylo. Episode IX features Luke, Finn, and a Kylo in search of redemption taking on Snoke and turning Rey while Poe and Leia look to restore democracy and peace to the Galaxy.

 

Aren't Han and Leia like 15 or so years apart, easily ?

 

Nah. It's like 10.

 

So that would mean that Han would either play older or Leia will play younger .

 

Which film?

 

i think the movie takes place 1-2 years after TFA.
Rey is training with Luke, like he was on Dagobah. R2D2 are probably with them.
Kylo Ren has finished his training with Snoke, and Snoke wants Kylo Ren to find Rey and Luke.
Finn and Poe will be flying the Falcon. I really think their chemistry is kind of like Han and Chewie. Also their first meeting, reminded me, that could actually be how Han and Chewie could have met each other. And BB-8 will be with them, cuz its Poe's BB-unit.
And Captain Phasma is going after Finn! Her character was not that much in TFA. I think she will be like Boba Fett was in ESB.
I dont think we will see that much of Leia or Chewie. If we do, i think it will be at the Resistance base with C3PO.

 

The idea of Kylo Ren's Dark Side training sounds awesome - It would be a parallel of ESB with a twist. However, the idea of the film being a rehash of V does worry me a bit.