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SPECULATION Possible connection between Luke and the Cross Saber...

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by emphram, Jun 14, 2015.

  1. ChrisI

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    Nice post. And please, feel free to post often. How many of us really have "inside" information anyway?
     
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    I can't see him being blind. Defintely pops it in Ep 8 though, force ghost to rey in 9
     
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    That cross saber of Kylo will be used to chop Rey's limbs off in the end of Episode 8. One of the cross blades will be used to cut her arm off.
     
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    You should rethink how you present your speculations, otherwise the negative ratings will keep pouring. Just a friendly advice. :)
     
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    A building in which jedi are trained, does not necessitate those regulations...
     
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    So true. I know the EU is dead, but Luke's Jedi Order in Legends barely resembled the Jedi of the PT. Romance was accepted, if not encouraged, and politics were largely kept away from the Order (near the end of the EU this actually became an issue, though it didn't take Luke all that long to decide that the Jedi should be autonomous from the galactic government). If Luke reformed the Order, I see no reason that it would have to resemble the flawed PT order; in fact, if he is still able to commune with Yoda, Obi Wan, and/or Anakin, they might have related to him how the Order's strict doctrine helped lead to its downfall.
     
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    Are you suggesting supreme hero savior Rey gets somehow defeated by Kylo? Isn't that sacrilege in your religion? :rolleyes:
     
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    It keeps occurring to me as I read speculation, spoilers, and rumors that 99% of them are false. Some are clearly the overactive imagination of anonymous fans: I don't know where you get your delusions of grandeur, Laserbrain. (That's not pointed at you emphram)

    Some are official plants to keep us guessing and preserve the wow factor of the film.

    And some are clearly true, and are later confirmed through official sources. Official disinformation and hiding the truth in plain sight are well worn ideas that are being used by JJ and Co.

    And you know what, it is working beautifully. 2 or 3 months ago I was thinking that the story was pretty well told already, and now it seems like it is going to be fresh and exciting. There is so much wrong information in my head that I should be surprised at virtually every scene.

    That being said, what we know from official sources is that the different creative teams work together, and I for one am as certain as can be that the inquisitors were introduced to canon for a very specific reason. I think you are right that Snoke was an inquisitor.

    After all it really isn't such a stretch. If you think about what we had during TCW, there was Sidious, Maul, Tyranus, Ventress, and Opress all active simultaneously (arguably Krell and Offee as well). So much for the rule of two...
     
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    No it is not. Kylo will beat Rey badly in Episode 8 a la Luke vs Vader ESB. Rey will defeat Kylo and Snokes in Episode 9 and become the savior and hero of the universe by the end of the ST.
     
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    I knew you were a false prophet of the ultimate messiah Rey and now you have proven it, Rey can not be beaten by anyone and to suggest otherwise is a capital sin :rolleyes:.
     
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    I am not a false prophet. Rey will rise to ultimate Jedi hood in Ep. 9 after having her limbs cut off in Ep. 8. Her cybernetics will make her even more powerful and bad-ass. Her path is very much like Luke Skywalker. She will be the savior at the end of Ep. 9.
     
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    @Aufman, could you name a source for this insight of your's, please?
     
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    Blasphemy! Rey's body is like a sacred temple and will not be defiled by impure cybernetic artifacts.
     
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    The Rule of Two was more like a guideline than a rule...
    Seriously, though, there were only two Sith "Lords" at a time - a Master and Apprentice. The rest were Force sensitive underlings that were given promises of possibly becoming Sith Lords some day if they could gain enough power to defeat the Master or Apprentice, but much was kept from their training to keep them weak. Feloni specifically said the Inquisitor(s) had that design of saber to compensate for lack of skill. They can't do what Maul could do.
    You could also think of "Rule of Two" as "Rein of Two" where there are only two leaders of the Dark Side. Keep in mind also that Palpatine and Vader talked as if Luke would be a part of the team with them, though they were both plotting to overthrow the other. So it does fit.
    Also, things could have changed since Bane's day and they are stretching the Rule of Two so they can have more Force sensitive resources. It makes sense that they would have at least secret apprentices waiting in the wings so if one of the Lords killed the other they would have a new apprentice waiting for them.
    Now that both Lords are dead, it makes sense that any dark Force users would be searching for ways to regain the knowledge that was lost with them...
     
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    No it was a rule, they just broke it.

    I personally thik the Rule of 2 was a duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumb plot device, thankfully it has been canonically established that the Rule of Two was not always a reality of the Sith.

    a proper Sith Order and Jedi Order war would do future movies a looooooot of good
     
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    In all seriousness, we have some indication that Finn is Force sensitive and Rey as the savior could be a classic Red Herring... Or Finn could be...Or they could be the new dynamic duo...

    This is exactly what makes speculation so fun. All that I will say with confidence is that one character will emerge as the torchbearer for the light side, beyond that anything could happen. I also am pretty sure that it will be a character introduced in Ep VII so that we have 3 movies to complete the story arc.
     
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    That character will be Rey. She is the torchbearer for the light and will completely defeat and vanquish the dark. Rey is the central character of the ST and her arc will go through the 3 movies.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 26, 2015, Original Post Date: Jun 26, 2015 ---
    One more thing, Finn being force sensitive and ultimately inheriting the lightsaber is the real Red Herring.
     
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    @Aufman : Do you have anything to back up your claims or are you just speculating like the rest of us? Speculating is fine, but doing so in such a definitive way is highly off-putting. Unless you have concrete evidence to back up your claims, a simple "I believe" or "I think" at the beginning of your statements goes a long way toward smoothing out this issue.
     
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    No. @Aufman Does not really contribute to any post he just makes crazy claims and keeps saying Finn is Rey's bumbling side-kick. I have an idea though. How about we just don't respond to him.
     
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    It is too late for @Aufman, son.

    There is good in him. I've felt it....

    "I'll not leave you here. I've got to save you!"
     
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