SPECULATION Possible connection between Luke and the Cross Saber...

I believe the cross-saber is a reflection of two things:

1. Kylo still isn't that powerful, at least in comparison to Vader or Luke at the end of the trilogy. He hasn't even constructed a real light saber yet. Perhaps finding a real one to learn how is related to his motivation? I mean how many light sabers are there now? Who knows how to build them now? The list in both categories are pretty slim I wager.

2. Kylo can use the swords design to create pyrotechnics. He combines his sword with Force push (big gusts of wind) to set things ablaze while protected in armor that protects him from heat. He's reckless, vengeful. chaotic and a little insane and the sword is a reflection of that disposition.

Wooden nickel speculation only.

 

I was joking. It's a Pirates of The Caribbean movie reference. The joke is that they are breaking the pirate laws but saying they were "more like guidelines" to get away with it.

But they are Sith, so of course they "bend" the rules using fuzzy logic. As I said, it makes sense that they would train underlings as potential replacements before they make their move. And the idea that Palpatine and Vader are both "Lords" of the Sith helps to make sense of it. If they don't have Sith underlings, what "Sith" are they lording over?
And as I said, Filoni explained that the Inquisitors aren't as highly trained as the Sith Lords, so Palps and Vader don't see them as a threat and therefore don't count them in the Rule of Two.

 

"You already have @Dark Toilet .... You already have."

 

@Snazel

We have to see another saber blade to draw any conclusion. Then we will know if this fiery, unstable blade is unique feature of crossguard sabre, or just the way that saber blades gonna look like in new trilogy. After all blades in PT seems to me thicker and more stable in compare to thinner, and flickering OT blades. And it is suggested by Rebels guys that look of blade is connected to the state of the force or something.

So:

PT: Hundreds of force users strong, thick, "calm" lightsaber blade



OT: Very few force users thin, flickering blade



NT: Force awakens, so strong, unstable, "hard to contain" blade

 

You can't save him from what he posts.

 

Jezus.... can we just have Luke as a "normal" old man Kenobi/Jedi master type? I mean holy blast....every other day it's something else with Luke...."Luke's evil in it, Luke's barely in it, Luke has ? voiceless cameo at the end, Luke's blind"....

Can we just have normal Luke, please? Normal Luke, with 30 years added to how he was when we last saw him. That's it.

Why is that so hard for people? Why is that so "unwanted"? I don't get it. These changes/ideas are f*cking stupid.

 

What is "normal Luke" to you?

 

Loved your speculation, except for the part about Snoke and The Seven being former Inquisitors, which I think diminishes their import. I really hope he is someone incredibly important from the past, someone who ups the ante over even the Emperor, not some former Palpy henchman. That's just me though.

 

Luke was never trained not to love or form attachments

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This coming from the guy that posts how Rey is an all-powerful force Goddess that eats stars and craps galaxies.

 

<<Too damn snarky. Mods please delete>>>

 

I agree with you here almost in entirety, but I did want to point something out: originally, Luke was going to have another blue saber in RotJ, it's even featured in one of the earliest trailers (back when it was still Revenge of the Jedi, not Return). However, the blade was not very distinguishable against the blue sky of Tatooine during the "Jabba's Skiff" scene, so they changed it to green. Your explanation is great from an artful perspective, but a lot of the things we like to justify as well thought out and deep were actually just practical decisions.

 

I deleted the post cause it was too snarky, but point taken about the color of the saber. I had it backwards anyway.

The general gist of the deleted post is that if we don't see the poetry, symbolism and allusion in these characters and stories we're missing the point. Apologies for the confusion.

 

I LOVE THIS. I am just loving all of these probably false rumors/leaks.

 

I read it before you took it down. For the record, I disagree that it was snarky.

It essentially asked what I did in an earlier post: What is "normal Luke?" Except that's pretty much all I posted, which is admittedly kind of snarky by comparison. All of the characters of Star Wars undergo change between movies, and none more so than Luke. So now, after 30+ years and who-knows-what happening in the galaxy, should we expect Luke to be in the same place we left him in ROTJ?

So if by "normal Luke," people mean that Luke is just doing his same old thing and being the Luke we all know and love, then I don't know what that means. We've never gotten a sense of what it means to be Luke Skywalker due to the enormous amount of growth and change he underwent during the OT. If "normal Luke" means not a cyborg or a hermit, then sure. But the backstory that implies sounds like a really fascinating one, and it raises the stakes in the galaxy now (er... in TFA times). It would give us a LOT to chew on and learn about, and that sounds like a lot of fun to me.

(for the record, I'm not advocating for cyborg Luke )

 

Yep it gives me something to read when I not looking for facts.

Yep he has been expressing a lot of slicing & dicing in his posts, @Dark Toilet etc have tried to bring him back to the fold but no to avail so far.

 

No, I hear you. And if it were 5 years, or even 10 years after ROTJ then I'd totally agree. Actually it's what I want to see, too. But 30 years is such a long time, I feel that it begs massive change. It's plenty of time for him to take a turn down some alley that we wouldn't otherwise expect or anticipate. I think we should be open to the idea that not only is it possible, but that it can be a pretty good story too. One that expands on and enhances the feelings we already have for the character.