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Ranking All Star Wars Movies

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by Dryden Valiance, Nov 5, 2021.

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How do you Rank the Star Wars films (gnerally)?

  1. OT>ST>PT

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  2. OT>PT>ST

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  3. ST>OT>PT

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  4. PT>ST>OT

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  1. Dryden Valiance

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    A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far, away...

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    TOP TWELVE STAR WARS MOVIES


    The Rise of Skywalker
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    In some respects the ninth episode is better than the prequel movie (especially I and II) but the story is a mess: it's confusing and many times it makes no sense to the point of becoming ridiculously convoluted and even dumb. From a storyteller's perspective it's the worst of the saga (The Holiday Special actually makes more sense).

    The Phantom Menace
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    A lot of people put this above the second one, and I can see why.
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    But I have a big problem with Episode I (even though it contains Qui Gon Jinn and Darth Maul, two of my favorite characters in the EU) if you really think about it: We don't need Episode I. It serves no purpose. If someone skipped the entire first episode of Star Wars I would miss out on any important information about the story (except the midichorian and Jar Jar).
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    The Duel of Fates (about Anakin's fates) is a fantastic fight, but neither Darth Maul or Qui Gon had a impactful meaning to the rest of the saga, if we didn't know them nothing really changes.
    Episode I have no impact on the overall story which is why I personally consider it worse than Episode II.

    Attack of the Clones
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    This is totally bias, or bs (I don't remember which one is ones).
    ATOC contain my favorite scenes of the entire saga, and my favorite monster.
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    I know a lot of people prefer Darth Vader in Rogue One, or the Duel of the Fates, or “I'm your father” line, I love them too... but there is something about that scene and the Acklay design that I simply cannot compute. But I know Episode II is a bad: the dialogue, the romance, the political talking, the sand...
    And then there is also Syfo Dias that as a kid I always thought was Qui Gon Jinn from the first movie. Episode II almost restart the trilogy like The Last Jedi does and is not what the second episode should do.

    ROGUE ONE & SOLO
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    It's time to talk about the “Anthology films”.
    I think exploring different characters in the galaxy other than the main protagonist and story-line is a good idea. But both film are big missed opportunity for me and even if they had great potential, they contain either badly developed characters (Rogue One) or a boring/run-of-the-mill story (Solo) that I don't have any need or interest to listen too. Their lack of originality and new idea put them both behind the Last Jedi, perhaps Solo for me is the worse of the two because was a bigger disappointment (even if it was a better movie overall).

    Return of the Jedi & The Last Jedi
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    It's at this point that you should realize that there is something very odd about this list (besides my horrible tastes). We are at number 7 but there are only 4 films left to evaluate.
    I liked both films, if I were to rate the films individually and disconnect them from the rest of the saga probably Rogue One and The Last Jedi would be much higher in the ranking, but if I have to consider them as chapters of a bigger story ... they lose a lot points. I don't know why I dislike ROFJ so much, maybe because it's a little too boring? The last episode of a trilogy should be epic and full of action and instead our heroes go around with wild teddy bears?
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    I can't decide whether to put TLJ behind or on top of ROTJ, because there are things I really like about the Last Jedi but also I really hate the Ewoks, more than the Porgs (if that's possible).
    For me Episode VI and Episode VIII are in the "fine" category, I don't like them very much but I can still enjoy their best part. So they're both at number 7.

    The Clone Wars
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    Exactly! This ranking doesn't just contain movies, so be prepared: I'll subvert your expectations!
    I think Star Wars Universe benefits a lot from the TV series format. And Dave Filoni is one of the few creators who have my full trust in everything Star Wars related.
    If I could decide: Dave Filoni will be the "Kevin Feige" of the Star Wars cinematic universe, everything related to Star Wars would have to be overcome by his judgment.
    (obviously George Lucas would always be my first choice, but Filoni consults him often and seems to enjoy his trust)
    To be honest, though, The Clone Wars isn't an interesting topic: it's a war between Clone and Droids ... nobody cares who wins or dies. I love Clone Wars, I love Ahsoka Tano, I love Darth Maul and there are other great stories, but there are also a lot of droid and clone episodes, a lot of filler episodes that are boring. There are too many things inside that just don't interest me.

    Revenge Of The Sith
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    This may surprise many viewers: a better prequel movie than TLJ and ROTJ, are you insane?
    Yes, probably ... but I have a very strange relationship with this film.

    As mentioned in another discussion: the battle between Obi Wan and Anakin is the only fight in which I have felt emotionally involved I'm very aware how it's like fight with a brother and both Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen made a damn good performance.
    As with AOTC this is a purely personal choice that many others may struggle to understand, but when ranking it is very difficult to remain objective.

    A New Hope (The Force Awakens)
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    This is another weird choice, but let me explain:
    Episode IV and Episode VII are basically the same movie.
    If I rank the Star Wars movies based on their creativity, the Force Awakens will be at the bottom of the list, because it's basically a reboot of the original movie.
    I think the Force Awakening improves (and modernizes) many things of the New Hope:
    Rey's introduction is much better than Luke's
    Finn's starting point is more interesting than Leila's.
    But even with all his updates he doesn't have the same soul, he's just a copy of the original.

    REBELS
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    The more interesting Dave Filoni's show (in my opinion), has the same passion and understanding of the Clone Wars but it's set in a more interesting time frame with more defined protagonists.
    There are so many good things about Rebels that I just suggest you see for yourself, it's very very cool, the story is more focused and easier to follow, and some characters are much better than the ones in "live-action" movies.
    Probably one of the reasons I love it so much is because it reminds me of one of my favorite TV series of all time
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    Empire Strikes Back
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    I know a lot of people will hate me for this choice ... how the hell is Empires not number one? What else is left? You're right: ESB is indeed the best film in the franchise. The "I am your father" line is what defines Star Wars, the moment when the villain tells the hero that he is his father is the best plot twist in the history of sci-fi films.
    For me Star Wars was never about Good vs Evil but about the interconnected relationship between Good and Evil, the "Taoism" of Star Wars. Without this scene Star Wars could end up being another science fiction movie like many others, what makes Star Wars one of the greatest in the Universe ever created is the relationship between Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker, what made me love Star Wars it was that Empire reacted.

    Before I reveal my number one choice, I would like to mention the things I liked but decided to exclude from the list.
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    Any Lego: Star Wars movie or cartoon, I really love them, I think they are fun and creative, but they are LEGO movies with Star Wars characters.
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    Then the Clone Wars., 2003 animated series. It has great animation, great characters, the best General Grievous and of course Mace Windu's karate chop. Unfortunately I don't feel entitled to include it on this list, because I don't consider it a Star Wars content, I consider a work by Tartakovsky, one of the best if not the best animator working today. You should watch PRIMAL, not in the future but right now, stop wasting your time with this list and go watch it. I promise you it will be the most thrilling experience you will have watching a cartoon.
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    And finally: The Mandalorian. A simple story can make a good series. Sometimes I think a lot of Star Wars movies (even Lucas' ones) have tried to be and say too many things, and have lost focus
    becoming confusing and hard to follow, they create to many plotholes and narrative problem that the audience lose interest.

    KOTOR & KOTOR II
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    Another extremely strange choice. But I firmly believe that the stories and characters in these 2 videogame are the best of any other Star Wars properties in the list. Darth Revan and Darth Kreia are the most interesting and complex characters in Star Wars lore.
    For these and many other reason, for me they deserve the number one spot (from a storyteller's prospective).

    Now have your say, I am curious above all to know which story of the expanded universe has struck you the most. Because I'm pretty knowledgeable about the EU but haven't read a lot of books (I've read a lot of comics though). So if you want to share your ranking of Skywalker saga movies that's fine but I'm more interested in learning about stories beyond the movies, no matter what source they come from (TV series, books, video games, etc ...)
     
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    (Lot's of stuff in your "Top twelve SW movies" aren't movies, but all right. I'm a bit confused about whether you're trying to make a movie ranking thread, of which there are several already, or if you're trying to do an all-Canon or all-Canon & all-EU ranking, or what. I'll hold to what the thread title and poll suggests to keep it managable :) )

    1st TLJ 10/10 (will watch always)
    2nd TESB 10/10 (will watch always)
    3rd S:ASWS 9/10 (will watch always)

    4th RotJ 8/10 (will watch always)
    5th ANH 8/10 (will watch always)
    6th TRoS 8/10 (will watch always)

    7th RO 7/10 (will watch on purpose)
    8th TFA 6/10 (will watch on purpose)
    9th TPM 5/10 (will watch on purpose)

    10th RotS 5/10 (watching is a chore)
    11th AotC 2/10 (watching is a chore)
    12th TCW 1/10 (watching is a chore)
     
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    Over the years I've ranked these movies several times. Most often the ranking stayed the same (with small changes here and there), but today I would rather rank them the following way:


    Perfect: TESB

    Very Good: ANH, ROTJ

    Good: TFA, R1, ROTS

    Average: TLJ, TPM, AOTC

    Bad: TROS, Solo, TCW
     
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    Well, I don't care much about the cartoons and Tv Series, so I never rank them.

    And even if I read some stories from the EU I never ranked them neither. Here are somes that I liked: Dark Empire (only the first one) and The Thrawn Trilogy (great charaters.

    Ranking the movies its more or less like this:

    - TESB/TLJ
    - ANH
    - TFA/ROTJ
    - Solo/RO
    - TPM
    - TROS

    - AOTC/ROTS

    So for me the trilogies are like: OT>ST>>PT.
     
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    Is it because you believe they are just for kids, or have you out grown cartoons and or animation/anime? Are adults who watch them considered children or rather so to speak.. a man-child? Just wondering, no harm intended... just curious... You must know cartoons, animation, and anime are created and produced by adults with extraordinary minds... (what is wrong with the EU or Legends? does it no longer matter... no longer canon...? I hope you do know the creators cherry pick from that thrown away galaxy, multiverse, stories from far far away ... so they are still relevant nonetheless... at least for me ) :D

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    I am lazy to start to watch them. But some like the Clone Wars don't interest me much, probably because I dislike almost all that was showed in AOTC and ROTS. So, this period of the time line in SW don't catch my attention.

    Rebels I saw the first two seasons and I enjoyed, but its been a long time and I am not motivated to continue.

    Mandalorian its an ok show that I have watched all episodes but its not a show to rewatch.

    Theses days I saw Caravan of Courage, the first ewok movie, but it was a little boring, I used to like it when I was a kid.

    EU I didn't read too much stuff. But some that I did are very good.

    I remember that I read these from the EU:

    - Thrawn Trilogy;
    - The Crystal Star:
    - Dark Empire I and II;
    - Shadows of the Empire;
    - Kenobi...

    Probably some more.

    Im general I really appreciate Cartoons, animes, etc...specially the ones that I grew up watching like Masters of the Universe and Thundercats. These shows I am planning to watch with my daughter later, too.

    Anime there are quite a few that I really love like:
    Cowboy Bebop, Dragon Ball and Death Note for example.

    So, my answer is no for your queetion. Most of the shows, especially SW, are made for all.ages.

    PS. I also watched these days the SW Visions, some episodes are really good.
     
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    What a cool list! Ranking systems, like movies themselves, are all so subjective. I like that you personalized the list for you -- it makes it unique. Also, shout out that Rebels found its way so high on your list. Something about that series hit me in the sweet spot. The characters, timeframe and story all worked for me.

    I voted OT>PT>ST, and most of the movies/series slot in about that order. (The entries in the middle portion of my list can swap spots pretty regularly.)

    Thanks for sharing!
     
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    5
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    I don't know why when parents say this, it bothers me, maybe because I'm not a parent and don't get it... is it because they want to share what they love with their children or do they think the material is really meant for children? Crazy Old Wizard rant over just trying to get to the bottom of this for years since I stopped watching cartoons when I discovered girls then fell in love with them again when I truly found myself as an aspiring artist.
     
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    Okay, as a whole I'd have to say OT>ST>PT, pretty easily.

    It's been a while since my last individual ranking, so I think I'd say, best to least best:

    Return of the Jedi
    The Force Awakens
    The Empire Strikes Back
    Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
    Solo: A Star Wars Story
    The Last Jedi
    A New Hope
    Revenge of the Sith
    The Rise of Skywalker
    Phantom Menace
    Attack of the Clones

    Honestly, I feel like this is pretty wildly different than the last time I made a ranking (probably late 2019). ESB is quite a bit higher than it usually is, and TROS has plummeted.
     
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    Ok from best to worst
    Solo
    Empire
    ANH
    Force Awakens
    Rouge One
    Rise of Skywalker
    TLJ
    Revenge of Siths
    Attack of Cloners
    The Phantom Menace

    The only reason rise of skywalker is above TLJ is because of poe, since i hate him and his plotline in TLj, but i think he is the best part of ROS
     
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    Yes, that's the awnser.
     
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    Love it: ANH, ROTJ, ROTS, R1

    Like it: TESB, TPM, AOTC, Solo

    OK: TROS, TCW

    Please erase from my memory: TFA, TLJ
     
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    Movies and tv shows:

    1. ESB, ROTJ, ANH,
    2. Mandalorian, R1, Clone Wars, RotS,
    3. Solo, Rebels, TRoS,
    4. TFA, TLJ,
    5. TPM, AotC
     
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    I made this list just for fun, I actually didn't think people would really answer. but I'm glad they did. I am a storyteller, I have been making stories since I was a child, I finish my first book at 12. So I tried to create a ranking system based on the Star Wars stories that I liked the most. Revan's is the most interesting to me, it's like a Bourne Identity story. I also find the story of the Phoenix squadron very interesting, since Firefly and Battlestar Galactica have always liked sci-fi where the main focus of the story are the interaction between the crew instead of focusing on a single character (but I never like Star Trek, for some reason).
    Either way, the goal of this ranking was to share my opinion and find out if there are some amazing EU stories that I miss out and should be read. I started to read the Trawn Trilogy but after a few pages I immediately give up. I prefer to read comics, I have read a lot of books in the pat but I think Star Wars is such a visual universe that "simple words" don't make it justice to the scope of it.
    So if anyone has any suggestions about a book, a comic or even a video game with a good story set in the Star Wars universe, I'm open to listening.

    Thanks to you! I wish other people would do something similar. I get that not everyone has the time to explain all of his answers. I tried to be honest and explanatory. I know many of my choices are quite unconventional, but reading the previous answers it seems that many people are unconventional answers. In the end your preferences are completely subjective, I mentioned in another topic that one of my favorite scenes in the whole saga is the duel between Anakin and Obi Wan, but the reason is absolutely personal.
    I'd like to see someone else explain their choice of preference, like #cawatrooper that said:
    It's his favorite movie ... I'm fascinated by it. Because I thought there was a silent rule among the SW community that we have to answer that TESB is the best film in the original trilogy without any doubts.
    So I'm interested in hearing some "out of the box" opinions to help me rethink my own opinions: maybe there is something else that I miss, there are always multiple points of view on a story. We never just see a movie or read a book, we see content through our experiences, our feelings, etc. A single movie could mean different things to different people at different times.
     
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    Haha, ok, but than you have tros and I doubt that one makes any sense without the other two? I other the other hand would like to erase tros from my mind xD

    That's how I would rank them too.
     
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    Agreed. The funny thing is- now that the ST is finished I think I actually like TLJ the most. TROS was that bad...xD
     
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    I try to be an "everyone can enjoy Star Wars in their own way, there's no wrong opinion" type of fan. But good lord man there's a limit
     
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    The Greatest

    Empire Strikes Back
    Last Jedi
    Star Wars
    Return of the Jedi
    Rogue One
    Mandalorian

    More Good Fun

    The Force Awakens
    Rebels

    The Ancillary Materials

    Attack of the Clones
    Bad Batch
    Clone Wars

    Revenge of the Sith
    Solo
    Rise of Skywalker

    The Prologue

    Phantom Menace
     
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