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Rey Solo

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Jul 23, 2017.

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3 Trilogies,3 great women,Grandmother,Mother,Daugther,Padme,Leia,Rey.

Poll closed Aug 29, 2018.
  1. Yes,I think its perfection

    17.2%
  2. Yes I like it

    13.0%
  3. I am not sure is it good or bad

    14.9%
  4. No,I want Luke had daughter

    18.1%
  5. No,I want Rey to be not in that familly

    41.9%
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  1. MagnarTheGreat

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    http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Cyrus_the_Great

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kira_(given_name)

    Which in some respects is along the lines of a potential 'Rey' (old development name Kira) Solo story.
     
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    Ben is born in Aftermath on the day Mas Amedda signs the surrender.
     
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    The casting for Rey was open to all ethnicities, seems strange for the daughter of 2 white characters.
     
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    They used the 'Rachel' code name to cast many of the young female parts in the whole movie instead of holding separate casting calls. 'Thomas' doesn't even say racially what it was for, but they did the same with that. Lucasfilm said that Crystal Clarke was the woman chosen from the open casting and Pip Andersen was the man chosen.

    Ridley was in casting process and pool long before that open casting call ever happened.

    twitter.com/RidleyDaisy/status/347413903245983744 (Ridley's now-deleted Twitter account)

    http://www.theforce.net/story/front...de_VII_Casting_Details_Leak_Online_152667.asp

    The updated Star Wars Year by Year: A Visual History for 2016 states that Daisy Ridley was cast in the lead role of "Kira" on February 5, 2014, landing the starring role after five auditions over the course of seven months.

    February 5, 2014 minus 7 months is July 5, 2013.
     
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    Aftermath definitely states only Ben was born during that time..
    So whoever wrote this didn't read novels.

    Though, its possible if Rey was born let say 2 years after or something like that.

    But why would Snoke keep Force sensitive children (people in general) in carbonite or any kind of stasis?
    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 29, 2017, Original Post Date: Sep 29, 2017 ---
    Racial equality, a formal aknowledgment of positive laws (constitution) of US. Of course that the dirrectors have their inner criteria of draft for every particular character.
     
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    We've known this since 2013 and the topic has come up and been debated many times since then. I won't rehash all the reasons why that isn't actually the slam dunk "har har Rey couldn't possibly be a Solo because when they used one generic casting call in summer 2013 before a completed script even existed for thousands of actresses in order to cast multiple parts in the movie they didn't make it white girls only!!" point that you think it is. Another big indicator that the casting call wording is meaningless to these kinds of discussions is because back in the day in the casting call for Padme, mother of two very white Skywalker twins, it was open to non-white actresses to audition. So oops?
     
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    This and racial correctness. I am not from US but I don't know how would this casting call sound : "only white girls allowed."...?
     
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    'Dreams.

    Leia knows she's just dreaming. She recognises them for the illusion that they are. But they trouble her just the same, threading in and out of her sleep. Phantasms pursue her. She dreams of Han, dead in the snow. She dreams of poor Chewie in a cage somewhere. She dreams of herself on a table, dying as her child - no, children - are born. Then comes a vision of Luke, lost among the stars, searching for something and failing, never returning. She dreams of being lost in a forest, and then being lost inside the Death Star - she and Luke and Han are fleeing Stormtroopers, trying desperately to get back to the Falcon after Obi-Wan powers down the tractor beam controls, but she knows the dread truth : he failed, he died, and the ship is still anchored there, and even if they could find their way out of the tangle of passages they'll never escape...'


    Aftermath:Life Debt ,page 335.


    "She dreams of herself on a table, dying as her child - no, children - are born."

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    "Han frozen."
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    "Didn't survive."
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    still in Cage.
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    trying desperately to get back to the Falcon.

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    lost in a forest.
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    Luke lost amongst stars
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    I wouldn't necessarily take all the pics you used for the interpretation of the Dream....but yes.

    This was posted many times, back in the ReySky thread, even....it blew me away.

    We have Leia, in New Cannon novels, having a dream of things that have happened, and it states she had more than one child.

    That right there - should end any "Rey Random" talk.
     
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    But there are incorrect details in the dream/vision. She give birth to a child and doesn't die. Even if she secretly has another child later. She didn't die during that child's birth so the real question is what is past, what is present, what is future, and what actually happened.
     
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    Or she's seeing Padme as herself...
     
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    Saying"no children." Doesn't mean she had more than one. She was just dreaming of having children like most women do. It's not code she had more than one.

    Also after reading that book and that particular part it perplexes me of the suffering she endures with in her almost like Anakin. Things that bother her and attachments. Now I understand that she is not a Jedi, but if she were she would have gone to the dark side and I think it's the reason she's not stronger in the force. Not that she isn't to a point. And maybe the reason Snoke so easily was able to get to Ben before being born.
     
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    Leia dreams only opposite outcomes than how it realy went or will be, .....Han didn't died but he survived cold night on Hoth, . Ben Kenobi released tractor beam and they escaped Death Star.Luke will not be lost amongst stars( we know Rey will find him). It all goes opposite in Leia's dream, in the particular element - of death or wanishing...Entire Leia's prophetic dream goes opposite in that one element for each character she sees.

    Lea dreams of herself... giving birth to a children (not child) and she dies in birth. . She didn't died by giving birth!. So she is not dreaming Padme (Padme died) , its epiphany of Chuck Wendig, Leia sees she will born not child , but-children.

    This "child- no, children " comes as surprise to Leia who expects one child ( just as ~90% of SW fans:p) !

    Even to Leia its surprise, she expects one child to born, Ben, also she knew Padme has born twins, again no surprise in that. Second child (children-not child!, not twins,just children) is surprise to Leia and its true, the false element in vision is again - her death during birth which we can confirm is the false element that will not happen.

    Force vision(dream) of second child. Wending is great. He wants his books to be readable ever after and in coherence to what will be canon in the future.

    Rey Solo Confirmed
     
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    Wending would not use this words, in fact construct entire this paragraph ,if he hasn't had in mind leaving deeper trace-legacy in his book.
    All artists like to leave a signatures, that they know before knowing..by necessity - now. It is their right, and the way they left such later recoverable hints which goe to their merit in "eternity".
    Of course some people will not agree, but this pretty much seals the deal for me.
    I will be really surprised if Rey is not second child of Han Solo and Leia Organa, sister of Ben Solo.
     
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    Isn't that all about why Leia remembers her mother - because it is a dream of what happened to Padme?
    Clearly, this didn't happen to Leia. But it did happen to her mother - who she strangely remembered and that whole scene in ROTJ needed explaining post PT somewhat...
     
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    "Leia knows she's just dreaming. She recognises them for the illusion that they are. But they trouble her just the same, threading in and out of her sleep. Phantasms pursue her. She dreams of Han, dead in the snow. She dreams of poor Chewie in a cage somewhere. She dreams of herself on a table, dying as her child - no, children - are born. Then comes a vision of Luke, lost among the stars, searching for something and failing, never returning. She dreams of being lost in a forest, and then being lost inside the Death Star - she and Luke and Han are fleeing Stormtroopers, trying desperately to get back to the Falcon after Obi-Wan powers down the tractor beam controls, but she knows the dread truth : he failed, he died, and the ship is still anchored there, and even if they could find their way out of the tangle of passages they'll never escape...'"

    But this stuff doesn't add up 1-for-1

    1) She see's herself dying as her CHILDREN are born - this would imply twins. That her children are being born at the same time. But we know Ben and Rey are not the same age.

    2) Luke didn't fail, he did fine the first Jedi Temple.

    3) She isn't seeing the future in regards to the falcon, she is seeing the past. She see's herself, Han and Luke trying to get back to the falcon. Its Obi-wan who failed and died.

    You can't take part of a sentence and use that "evidence" and ignore the rest of it.
     
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    Padme died at birth. Leia's dream is all about opposite outcomes.In this case her dream of Padme is only true outcome of dream.(strange, because Leia know her mother died at birth giving birth to twins).

    Dream

    illusion- Reality

    Han died-didnt died.
    Chewy slave-lived free
    Luke lost amongst stars-didn't lost.
    Obi wan didnt shut down tractor beam-hi did, they escped.
    Leia gives birth to not a child, but children!, and dies--will not die at birth.(notion about her children POSITIVE!)
     
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    so if its all the opposite, then wouldn't be evidence that she only gave birth to 1 child?
     
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    Just death outcome,faliure or wanishing is opsitie!

    Han dies, didnt died, else is true(Hoth)
    Chewy slave in cage(death in parctice for him)-he is free, but else true(Kashyyyk)
    Ben fails and they all die- they live, but else is true(Death Star)
    Luke lost amnogst stars never find his goal--he will, but else is true
    Leia dies giving birth to a-CHILDREN- she will not die, else is true.
     
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    Han did die on a snow planet.
    Chewie was likely once in a cage.
    Luke was lost for a time.

    But the point is, that these are clearly dreams and nightmares that Leia was having. They can be attributed different realities and things that didn't come to pass.
    The childbirth element fits well into explaining how she "knew her mother" and remembered something Luke didn't. The whole thing is far more of a reason to discount Rey Solo than as evidence for it.
     
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