Rogue One reshoot?

Not great on Episode VII. Coin-flip.

 

I would say that people on these forums have been very nice to They Live so far considering the fact that he pretty much only posts negative things. If he doesn't like the new Star Wars movies, fine, no skin off of my back(although comparing them to Bay's Transformers series is ridiculous). His declarations of what makes a "Real" fan though are childish and represent the worst aspects of any particular fandom(Star Wars or not). With as many posters as we have on these forums, I think most of us read posts we disagree with on a regular basis, however those posts aren't generally overly pessimistic or meant as digs at fans that feel differently.

For instance, I don't like the Prequels all that much(I kinda hate AotC in particular). When I speak about my distaste for the Prequels though, I don't do so in such a way as to crap on the people who do like them or accuse them of not being "Real" fans. The fact that they enjoy what I don't has no effect on me.

It should be noted as well that posters on these boards generally don't go around making silly doom and gloom messages about movies that haven't even been released yet. I have no problem with the fact that They Live doesn't like the new direction that Star Wars is taking(he's not the only one on these boards), but the way he presents his posts is almost always pessimistic and frequently borderline trollish. If you don't believe me, simply click on his profile and look at his posting history. I welcome dissenting opinions on these forums(wouldn't be much fun otherwise), but there's a way to take part in the discussion without seeming like a stereotypical angry internet commenter.

For example, I have seen some of your posts on this forum going into things you disliked about TFA. I didn't necessarily agree with all of them, but they way you present your opinions doesn't come off as condescending or trollish, they add to the conversation in a positive way, even if your opinions on the the movies aren't always positive.

 

I agree, there is no real fan, just fan.
I don't like the PT, but I have to admit that I like parts of it, if this makes sense.
To be honest I even dislike parts of ROTJ and I'm not speaking about the Ewoks.

Thank you for the kind words.
I hope it's true what you wrote, because I'm afraid that I sounded bitter or upset on my posts.

About TFA, yes it's true that I'm disappointed with the outcome.
LFL had so much time after the release of ROTS to come up with an original story.
I have the feeling that more was possible and that the potential was not utilised.
Now I'm looking forward to VIII and Rogue One.
Rogue One could be a game changer to get the disappointed fans like me back on track.
Fingers crossed.

Nonetheless I will watch VIII and Rogue One in the cinema.
My dear fellers/fans we should not worry about the re-shoot.

 

I don't know why everyone is so worried.... I am the only one that isn't?

 

I'm not either. Let's say that the negative rumors are true and the film is a mess. Will fretting over the state of a film that hasn't been released yet do one bit of good? The answer to that question is no. Just judge it yourself when it comes out.

In all honesty, I look at it as more of a positive thing if the rumors about the reshoots being character focused are true. I have only seen one film by Gareth Edwards, that film being Godzilla. I loved everything in the film focusing on Godzilla, but it really faltered in the characterization of Soldier McBoringFace and his family. Seeing that film gave me confidence that Gareth Edwards can deliver the war side of Star Wars, but it did leave me with a bit of trepidation regarding his ability to handle the character driven bits. If Disney and LucasFilm want to assist in polishing up those bits of they are indeed lacking, I'm completely fine with that.

Either way, I don't intend to lose any sleep over it.

 

Don’t worry, be happy!

 

I just hope they aren't taking away any of the War aspects from it.

 

I don't think that they're taking anything away...just adding more to the story.

 

The reports do say that the re-shoots are going to add some more character-focused stuff into the movie. So that jives with your assessment of Edwards' directing.

 

I agree with you, the trouble does not make sense.
If the movie would be a mess, one month would not be enough time for reshooting half of the movie.
Furthermore they would change the release date.
Some news sites like to stir up bogus or exaggerate to get clicks.
It reminds me of the title "Much Ado About Nothing"

I'am happy.
The whole rumors and made up stories are amusing me.

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Right, it would not make sense, to reshoot half of the movie so close to the release date, it would be a risk.
They are fine tuning the movie and I guess more is not possible from the reshoot schedule onward.

 

The fact that there are reshoots does not concern me; most tentpole movies have reshoots nowadays. However, the other news around it does.

Besides the reshoots, the Rogue One comics have been delayed (http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016...gue-one-comic-prequel-possibly-cancelled.html), Gareth Edwards has indicated that his next project would be smaller again (http://variety.com/2016/film/news/godzilla-2-director-gareth-edwards-exits-1201774113/), and, although some people are saying that the reshoots would be mainly character driven ("people in cockpits talking"), a stunt coordinator has been hired to help with the reshoots (http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016...ane-to-help-with-the-rogue-one-re-shoots.html).

I do not think that Rogue One is doomed, but I am concerned that the reshoots for Rogue One are more substantial than the reshoots for most movies. And, while there are plenty of examples of movies that had substantial reshoots which improved them (e.g., World War Z), there are just as many examples which showed that substantial reshoots (e.g., Fantastic Four) were a sign that the movie was in trouble.

Another concern that I have is the tone of the movie. Gareth Edwards seemingly envisioned Rogue One as a war movie set in the Star Wars universe. However, many reports are now suggesting that Lucasfilm is changing the tone and bringing more levity. While some levity might be good and many war movies have moments of levity, I hope that they will be able to get the right balance and the movie does not feel disconnected with the lighter scenes not feeling natural among the darker scenes. I do not want to watch a movie that does not know what it is.

 

What problem did the Disney executives have with the movie? I'm just leery about a movie's future when studio executives really start interfering.

 

Well ACTUALLY there was a very brief concept at Lucasfilm, Ltd. of Anakin Skywalker's ghost ranomly turning into Vader's "ghost."