Rules within the SW universe.

So when TLJ does something different, it's throwing out the rules.
But when Lucas does it for 30 years it's, what, all within the rules?

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Star Wars stuff. Yes.

 

Oh my god, thank you.

Like you quoted Yoda, "Size matters not."

Obviously, I'll be the first to admit that fictional universes absolutely need some rules for the narrative to be coherent. But the Force has always been a rather mystical thing. It's clear from as early as the first movie (and reiterated ad nauseum in ESB) that the Force is less of a test of strength but of will. That's basically the point of why Yoda was a small little green alien instead of a golden Adonis paragon figure.

Like you say, Luke struggled in giving into the Force that much (which, come to think of it, is another reason why the ending of TLJ really does service to his arc).

For some reason, Rey doesn't have as much trouble with this. In my interpretation, at least, this is because much of her character is about believing in and embracing the legends of Star Wars in a galaxy that might have forgotten.


Anyway- like I said, the Force is a very mystical thing. I've written elsewhere that one's enjoyment of Star Wars hinges on how well they're able to suspend their disbelief. If the rate at which a girl gifted in the force is able to pick up rocks is a breaking point for someone, then I truly pity the overanalysis that prevents them from enjoying this great film.

 

I lol'd. We've moved from Jedi in the GFFA to Superheroes in the GFFA. Let the good times roll!

 

Well said!

 

Then. Why. Did. "Noone". Else. Do. What?

 

He's going to keep asking why nobody else lifted as many rocks as Rey.

 

That's too far but Jar Jar stepping in poop isn't?
Unintentionally racist stereotypes aren't too far?

Please.

 

Rules broken.
Consequences,taken.

 

I wasn't following your discussion, I was reacting to your mild insult of him measuring objects as means of justifying an argument.

Nope. Nobody's complaining about Ahsoka. Nobody's complaining about Jyn.

I'd rather say that some of you can't accept that a female character (Rey) can be badly written. Literally your only defense will always come down to "sexist" - There's the problem. You simply cannot see beyond this, and that's saying a lot.

 

Thank god Lucas didn't have Anakin move some rocks in TPM.

Is is really that big of a deal?

 

The answer to this question is obvious and irrelevant.

 

No one is saying that there aren't limits- just that the limits aren't necessarily translatable to physically lifting a stone with muscle.

What Rey does in TLJ is nowhere near lifting an entire mountain. For all we know, it could be like after if I just started going to the gym for my New Years resolution and picked up a small rock off the ground and you said "Whoa, how did you lift that? You've only been training for like three days!"

I guess it boils down to: Unless you can explain exactly how the Force works, there's no real reason to complain here.

 

Here is the answer. Let me spell it out for you. One rock or 30 boulders. Means nothing if the Force wants them lifted.
Your other examples are so exaggerated and far fetched that they are irrelevant.

 

Maybe the rocks on Crait have a decreased density due to the high salt content and therefore aren't as heavy?
Perhaps they share more in common with a pumice or other volcanic style rock than other types?

Maybe Crait has a low gravitational pull and the rocks are already easier to lift.

 

I mean, that analogy assumes that the most impressive thing the Jedi ever managed to do was to lift only about 1/7 of the rocks that Rey lifted in TLJ.

So, do you honestly consider that an honest argument?