OFFICIAL NEWS SDCC 2015: Lucasfilm's Panel Discussion Thread

Since we are super fans of SW we want every bit of information we can get. We analyze everything and SW is part of world. CC to is is a big deal. However, we have to remember that the general public is not like us. The general public for the most part does not pay attention to what's shown at CC. To most people CC is viewed as the place where crazy fans, geeks and nerds go to dress up in costumes. While for us it is interesting to debate which movie/show had the best CC, the general public really does not care. Sure CC can create some buzz for a movie, but for a movie several months to a year out the buzz usually is short lived because people's attention spans these days are so short. I guess what I'm getting at is that CC is for primarily for fan service and that is exactly what fans of all movies got. Some of the smaller projects use CC as a way to get there projects in front of fans who like similar genres. For those projects a good CC may increases viewers. For large entities like SW what they do at CC is for their hardcore fans like us. Not the general public. What they do at CC will have no impact on who sees the movie in Dec. People will see SW because it is SW and the big marketing push that will be on all mediums a few months out from the movie is what is going to get the general public excited and ready for the movie.

 

I disagree, and the reason they keep banging on endlessly about practical effects and puppets is because if you step outside the circle of us "superfans" and our PT lover/hater tribes then the general consensus among the average movie-going public and more casual fans is that the last 3 Star Wars movies were lacklustre and simply not as good as the "Originals". Part of that was the perception of too much digital VFX and a much loathed CG character...plus they've dated over time to the level that many people liken them to games console graphics.

To sell this movie they really have to hammer home to the average movie-goer that this is far more like the originals than the last three movies. Going back to the old ways as Peter Mayhew said. There's good reason why that ComicCon video was all about the puppets, great sets and real explosions. Remember the old adage..fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on ME.

And PS - I completely agree about the Hobbit..crazy amount of unrealistic VFX... and Avatar was the most boring movie ever to me.

 

Indeed seeing HF walking again was memorable

 

That's mean. You don't think Ford can act?

 

Respectfully, I don't think you are looking at things the same way as Disney, as a brand. Marketing 101, you don't gear your message to the top 10%, the super fans. Same thing goes for the bottom 10%, they aren't going to watch no matter what you do. Disney did their homework and research. They found that the masses (the other 80%) think the Prequels were okay movies that suffered from bad acting and too much CGI....with the poster child being the all digital Jar Jar. While this BTS video revealed very little to the super fan (top 10%), it was fresh and new to the average movie goer. Showed it to my wife and she was super impressed. They evoked a positive feeling in viewers by "going old school" and showing just how much they care about reproducing the world GL created in 1977.

The decision to distance themselves from Lucas isn't because they don't respect the man, etc. They simply want to move on and not evoke the negative feelings GL gives a lot of their audience. Again, in marketing, never use key words that cause a potentially negative reaction.

On some of your other points. The Batman/Superman trailer wasn't that great to me. More buildings blowing up and a terrible Lex Luthor. Got it. Seen it. Forgettable. Just like Transformers, Man of Steel, etc. It will not compare to The Dark Knight or the Joker performance by Ledger.

Peter Jackson and James Cameron did not create a universe. Jackson directed in the LOTR world but he didn't create it. Avatar was boring. I watched once and had no desire for repeat viewings. They are great directors but should not be in Lucas class as a visionary and creator. The fact that George became more like them is what disappointed a lot of people. The expectations were so high, and GL went the way of the average director with thin story, wooden acting and too much whiz bang effects. We see those movies every summer and forget all about them.

 

What the...., can't act

 

I'm a little late to the party but did anyone pick up a vibe from Adam Driver? Was it an act or did he just seem very uncomfortable or disinterested? JJ almost had to force him to speak.

 

He's typically what is considered an, "indy darling," so he's probably not used to crowds. I'm sure he's one of those actors that really appreciate the subtleties of acting which makes big blockbusters like Star Wars and all the fandom that comes with it a bit much to handle. I'm glad he's there nonetheless, he's a good actor.

 

Harrison Ford is a great actor but he gains nothing from faking it. If he truly didn't feel the way he did he could have come on stage, given canned answers and left.

 

I think Harrison Ford's comments were sincere, because I think he has enough self esteem to not sell something as frivolous as a few marks of approval that hard.

 

Yes he just didn't want to talk about Kylo, kept looking at JJ as if he wasn't expecting to be asked questions, Domhnall had to hold his hand through that moment, I was shocked that he revealed one of Kylo's lines ''I am evil''.

 

The I am Evil line was obviously a joke because it's such a horrible line.

 

Surely that's Snoke??? It's from the final scene where Jedi Master Davis fights Snoke in the Secret First Order Base.

Seriously though, I hope this particular alien is just filler at the back of Maz's bar.....

 

That's just what he's like. He's the furthest thing from Hollywood a movie actor can get and I'm sure that he was overwhelmed. In the backstage interviews he was much more outgoing and talked about the expirience. Maybe he has stage fright? It's different being recorded on camera than being forced to talk in front of 6 thousand people.

 

Lol yep this was the interview I was speaking of.

 

Maybe he was just staying in character.

It sounded like a line used in the movie maybe before one of Kylo's duel were eg: Luke says What your doing is evil, turn back now, Kylo: I am evil etc.

 

Gleeson and Christie both seem really outgoing and good natured. Driver just seems a little shy; maybe uncertain how much he can or can't say. That said, everything we've seen of their characters thus far indicates that there is a little more depth and nuance to what they're doing then maybe was widely expected.

Driver's comments about the difference between "bad vs right" is a definite departure from the villain who revels in his own villainy and seems to fall more in line with Vader's sense of righteousness and destiny.

 

The purpose of every sw villain of doing whats right is so predictable.

 

Batman v Superman comes out in a YEAR. There will be clips. Trailers. More. So much...

This rollout is masterful, even if it is frustrating. Everyone here will be thankful come December 18th when all we have seen are 2 short teasers, a small behind the scenes, a full trailer and some photos. Every few months they're giving us JUST enough to wet our pallets. I don't want any of the movie spoiled or given away - they basically gave away half of BvS.