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OFFICIAL NEWS SDCC 2015: Lucasfilm's Panel Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Viral Hide, Jul 9, 2015.

  1. It's a Trap

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    Has anyone figured out what's going on here?:

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    All I can tell is that the middle character (with a hood?) is advancing on the other two, who are backing away. The one on the right might be firing a blaster? The one on the left throws something?

    EDIT: There's a light on the ceiling that is spinning like an alarm. If this is the FO base, can we assume the middle character is an intruder?
     
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    The character in the middle has some type of staff and he is spinning it. Pay close attention to the area to the right of his right leg. You'll notice the staff showing up as it spins. The staff is spinning clockwise.
    It's very interesting that we have no clue who these people are.
     
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    Rey escapes from the First Order base after a sort of "confrontation of minds" with Kylo Ren according to the filming outline. Could be that. Maybe.

    http://thecantina.starwars7news.com...ns-news-rumors-thread.153/page-243#post-96838
     
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    That may indeed be a staff but the character in the middle is not spinning it. It originated from the character on the left who seems to throw it at the character in the middle. You can see its full trajectory over the course of the clip. The place where you see it to the right of the middle character's leg is after it has missed the middle character and is continuing toward the camera
     
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    The leak of that particular bit of footage and the leak of the guards running down a corridor that looks like it's the interior of a ship makes me think that the last act isn't what we think it is. And given how all of the things that have confirmed existing text leaks only point to the first and second acts of the film, I would not be surprised if the third act threw every insider through a loop.

    I dunno, it just seems kind of fishy to me in the way it's visually presented. That doesn't look like the interior of a castle/military base so much as the interior of the Nostromo. I'm almost waiting to see a giant alien with a phallic head pop up out of nowhere.
     
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    The last act was the most clouded in Episodes I, II and III six months out, if history is any guide. But I think the treatment is largely right. Note if you read it that the treatment itself has questions, so we don't know everything yet.

    How does the Falcon wind up being at just the right hangar at just the right time without Han and Chewie in it?
    How does Poe get from Jakku to Yavin IV is a question. (In fact I am unclear what happens to Poe entirely after the escape and crash)
    How Rey seems more powerful in the force than even Kylo is a question I have.
    And why Han goes to Maz instead of Leia at such a critical time is a BIG question I have.
    Also who the heck is Gliv? There's an entire character mentioned in the treatment, that to my knowledge we know nothing about except its a close ally of Leia's.
    And why does Gleeson destroy the First Order and let the super weapon be destroyed?

    Lots and lots to learn yet. If there are answers to these questions already I missed, +1 if you let me in on what was learned.

    But overall, wow, yeah we really are seeing the skeleton come together. Impressive.
     
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    Remind me where this particular bit of informed speculation/leakage came from?
     
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    Well the treatment says it's Gleeson who fires the weapon and a result the shield is knocked out and allows the heroes to destroy Starkiller base...

    Hux fires the weapon here, destroying the First Order in the process:

    "The Imperial General (Domhnall Gleeson) orders the activation of “The Array,” as the Imperial Catapult is not yet charged up. In that moment, projectiles are fired and all the ships in space are destroyed. The General is coldhearted. He destroys his own men in their TIE Fighters to take out the Rebel ships. To me it sounds like a chess exchange and the Imperial General was willing to sacrifice a few pawns. Cold."

    Seems like a poor trade off and not a smart decision because later...

    If you recall the good guys have dismantled the shields around the castle and set charges. It appears to me “The General” watches as the charges blow and he eventually dies as they trigger one by one and the castle area collapses. I’m guessing he tells “Uber” he has failed and the weapon is lost.

    I mean it could just be a bone head move, but it seems everyone lucks out because of it and he doesn't really have a strong motivation for firing it in the first place.

    It's a huge Deus Ex Machina because it crumbles the First Order to largely dust. Yet doesn't really have any real reason.
     
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    I thought it was a code name for Korr Sella, who is played by Maisie Richardson-Sellers. She is supposed to be an aid to Leia.
     
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    I believe those two events although happen in the same sequence are mutually exclusive. The weapon that is fired takes out the ships in space but the firing of such weapon does not cause the shields to be destroyed. That occurs when our heros on the ground are successful by likely setting off charges that destroy the shields.
     
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    If both the New Republic and the 1st Order have planet killing super weapons then it is possible that they are relying on mutual assured destruction to keep the peace. If the movie ends with both weapons knocked out and major casualties . . . then all out "conventional" war breaks out. This isn't the destruction of the 1st Order its the end of the uneasy peace.
     
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    The 2 guys in front look like the 2 soldiers running down the hall in the other clip or at least the same uniforms. The man in the middle looks like he force pulls the blaster out of the hands of the guy on the left or force pushs him causing the blaster to go flying through the air. Which means that is luke, kylo or there is another male force user in the movie
     
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    Is that true is Gliv really just Korr Sella who dies later? Sounds like these treatments need some clean up. :)

    Also my understanding was the Array is what eventually allows the defense of Starkiller Base to be compromised, leading to the charges and the explosion. Not directly, but it's a lucky break for our heroes on the surface. It's a dumb suicide move and an awful Deus Ex Machina, easily my most hated part of the script. It's like "well we need the film to end now, so let's just push this button and poof everything is destroyed".

    Also he just kind of lets Snoke know, "hey I totally screwed up, sorry bro...", but then later stands and watches himself get blown up?

    Weird ending, like really weird and very off key.

    EDIT - Also of all characters it seems Gleeson's seems the most cluttered. At one point he's Skywalker's son? Then he's just a character whose only purpose is to fire the Deus Ex Machina and then die? I smell tuna.
     
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    I have not heard any rumors about Korr Sella dying but it seems a bit of waste.
     
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    When you guys mention the character in the middle, are we talking about the one closer to the camera?
    What I see is 3 guys who are on the same side of the fight cautiously advancing on an opponent who is at the end of the hall and can not be seen due to the lighting/mist(?). Middle and right guys seem to be carrying blasters, not sure about the one on the left, could be some kind of staff or some long rifle.
     
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    Yeah, it almost looks as if the guy to left, in the back, is tossing the 'staff' to the guy closest to the camera in the middle.

    The fellow to the right, in the back, seems to be 'on the look out' and not really pointing his weapon at anyone.
     
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    In my opinion the 3 guys are facing away from the camera, and the staff/rifle is being thrown/pulled away from the camera as well.
     
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    I've watched this a million times and I think this is what is happening:

    It's a pre-effects in-camera shot. The three guys are all walking away from the camera toward an enemy. The guy on the left is hit with something, a blaster round, a lighsaber, something, that will be put in in post. He flails back and his staff goes flying back toward the camera and the guy in the middle has to duck to avoid the flying staff. Maybe.
     
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