Simon Pegg Says J.J. Abrams May Have Had Something Else in Mind for Reys Parentage

I don't blame JJ for not dealing with Rey's lineage in episode 7 as this was something to be dealt with in episode 9, going by old statements by Colin Trevorrow about Rey's backstory being of importance to the galaxy, and the story of Daisy Ridley crying when she heard Colin Trevorrow's idea for Rey's lineage.

JJ wrote a treatment for episode 8 and 9, and going by Daisy Ridley's comments, Rian Johnson did not adopt the treatment, opting to write his own story. Nothing wrong with writing his own story per se, but if there is a general guideline where episode 8 was meant to deal with some questions and episode 9 some others, he could have played with episode 8 specific questions and not messed around with other's sandbox. It gives the impression of being a bad team player, whether true or not.

As for Rey's lineage, while Rey random is all fine and dandy, I believe Simon Pegg's comments that JJ intended Rey to belong to some relevant lineage.

Now this does not necessarily mean she had to be a Skywalker, Solo, Palpatine, Kenobi etc (any of which I would have liked)- it could even mean Rey's parents played some critical role in the Star Wars arena, which will either challenge or reinforce Rey's beliefs. For instance, they could have been imperial scientists on the death star project, rebel heroes who participated in some heroic mission, imperial defectors, people in love belonging to different sides of the fight etc...they did not need to be the "force" behind her force powers (pardon the pun) but they needed to be more relevant than random drunks who sold her off and died in the desert.

In the PT, at least Anakin was the son of Shmi...in the OT, Luke was the nephew or Owen and Beru Lars, and Leia was the daughter of Bail and Breha Organa. They came from somewhere. Rey just has herself.

 

Collin Trevorrow was once important part of the team, remember, and this what he said about Rey is absolutely different from a daughter of 2 drunkards who sold her and are burried in the poppers grave.

 

It's no different though to Anakin growing up as a slave to a slave mother. Or Luke growing up as a farmboy to an aunt and uncle.

 

Rey's catharsis of facing her worst fears was great move by Rian Johnson.,who himself said it was" in that moment most hard for Rey (and us) to hear".
This was a test for Rey as it served in the same time as masterful anti-climax of the entire trilogy for the public.

After Rey has been tested in hardest way,and decided her path regardles of her ancestry,after she shown she is worth of everyone's admiration because what she personaly is,she,just as we, will get the true answer about her belongings which will be profoundly satissfying and celebrated for long time.

 

Plus, I think people forget that we already have our "noble" birth with Ben. Having two would be too much.

 

Rey is Skywalker by everything I was able to put together... saving grace of the trilogy and Star Wars that will be celebrated forever.
I was never so sure in my life .

 

And I still disagree. You don't make Luke clueless about his own daughter. Especially when he can connect with Leia seemingly at will using the Force. Also, consider how Rey is so powerful in the Force, you'd think he'd be able to sense that.

 

Luke disconnected from Force.In the novel-Once he connects he is instantly flushed by the Light which represents Rey like a Beacon in the Force.This starts Luke's change.
In the last scene Luke realises it all while passing to the Force..while Rey,not Leia,senses him first in a shock.In the novel Rey fells on her knees in the moment Luke passed.
She fell on knees in Dark cave before...

 

Case in point?

That Streep thing was a rumor that has pretty much entirely been debunked.

Again- let's criticize the actual film, and not the conspiracy theories surrounding it. Good lord.

 

Mate, it's been 3 years. You have been proven wrong over and over again. The logical argument has been that she isn't a Skywalker ever since TFA was released. It made no sense for her to be a Skywalker then or now. It doesn't work. There is no story where Luke had a fling with a young girl from some fishing world who he never met up with again. There is no story where Luke, who only disconnected from the Force post Ren's turn, abandoned his daughter or allowed her to be abandoned on Jakku. There is no story where Luke got married, or lost a child or anything like that.

If we're going to force her into a legendary character's family tree then really it can only be worthwhile and possible for her to be a Kenobi or Palpatine.
Going on and on in every thread that relates to her ancestry about this nonsense story you made up about Luke and his child bride is tiring. You need to let it go.

 

Chuck Wendig (Aftermath series author) chimes in on this whole thing:
Epic tweet storm. Click to read it all.

 

Superbly said, thanks for the share. This needs to be read by a lot of people on this forum. Read and understood. This is a seasoned storyteller. Someone who gets how a good story is formed and how best to deal with characters.

I think there needs to be some sort of new obstacle for Rey to get over. Like I say, if JJ wanted to make her a Palpatine or Kenobi, then there is room in there for that. But like Chuck, I think it brings with it problems and could not only diminish the story in TLJ but Star Wars over all. Like he says, if SW is made to just be about important bloodlines, then we're in Eugenics territory (though I disagree with him about midichlorians as essentially that concept has always existed and it doesn't change what the Force is or how it really works).

Another interesting idea is this notion of bringing in the mystery of what happened to Rey's deadbeat parents. Why were they like that? Why were they drunks? Who killed them? Rey has accepted she doesn't come from anywhere important and she has found her place. There does need to be something to cause some conflict so we're not certain of her path. Perhaps her relationship with Ren will be enough for that...but perhaps not. We'll see.

 

Agreed. We're only 2/3 the way through the story. Assumptions about Rey's parentage are speculation now.

Arguing one side or another can be fun (or annoying to some) but in the end, since the story is not over, all we really know for sure is that Rey is a powerful force user, Luke/Anakin's saber called to her, she was left on Jakku for some unknown reason, Kylo tells her that her parents were nobodies, and Rey seemed to agree with the idea.

Enjoy the ride. I think we'll learn a lot more about Rey in IX.

 

Well they are tormenting me.Its not my guilt.
Luke makes fishing the way he learned on Lew'el,where he in the Canon book meet the Force sensitive girl which later as a grown woman searched for him ...totaly unnecessary scene for the film if not something else.They made shadows of Luke and Anakin in the cave.Dying Luke sees light as an aparition of a giant bird,symbol of Wind truster from the planet Lew'el.
Why are they doing it to me?

Maybe I have gone crazy,in this case I am sorry I can't help it.

If ,by chance I am sain,I tell you prepare napkins since moment Rey will meet Luke's Force ghost in ep IX will be remembered in the archives .

 

Take a break, man. Have a rest. Is there anything we can do you for you? Bring you anything? Maybe one of us can sit with you for bit.

 

And the Academy Award goes to...




I'll have to watch Luke's death again, but I really don't remember seeing a bird creature in the light. If anything, I think the implied binary suns are probably the important symbolism in that scene.

And stuff like the fishing- my personal guess is that was stuff added to the book to fit the movie, not the other way around.

 

I want someone to tell us there is plan,that there is hope,.
...is that ReyLo transport ships they are puting fuel into?

 

It wasn't even a rumour, it was a fan petition, so it's even less relevant.

 

McDiarmid, JJ asked me to pass a message onto you and that message is there is a plan, there is hope.

 

Luke obviously sees something unexpected and revelating to him in front of the sun,
a blured dot in front of the sun,


but evidently not a usual feature in front of the sun, roughly it could be some kind of bird passing in front of sun.




Luke strungles to see it better...its something that means to him..

Just a second later clouds are in front of the sun, jet the aparition is not gone, now its presence is
emanating trugh the clouds in a light that takes shape of a giant bird, its in front of star and to the left. It can't be second star .



.... next--peace and purpose in Luke's eyes, and a joy actually for what he sough and what this has told him...



at the end this is scene is of course true binary sunset, and the right larger sun that is now visible far away from first sun and obviously has nothing with "winged " light aparition we sough in the clouds before.
It was something else.



Cure me, please.