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Simon Pegg Says J.J. Abrams May Have Had Something Else in Mind for Reys Parentage

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by SWNN Probe, Apr 4, 2018.

  1. cawatrooper

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    That's actually a really good point.

    Rey was looking for information in the cave, and she saw herself... and automatically assumed her parents were drunkards?

    I don't mind at all the "Rey Nobody" thing, but I just feel like this is a case where you get the right answer to the equation but lose points because you didn't show your work.
     
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    My find is dirrectors signature, signature of author that he knows, for later reference,. Sign of coherence .

    On behalf of Rey , who never saw Vader or Anakin, and young Luke, and never knew what Luke experienced in Dagobah cave, she got zero information in the Dark cave ,two shadows that became her...nothing...Ebb.

    But we, public, got something. As this is great work of art.

    Rey is powerfull, she asks , bends the Force to give her the truth about her parents. Dark phase (cave)of Force can not stay inactive on such demand by Rey, still,it denies her the final truth while retaining basic property of Cosmic Force itself, of been unable to lie, just deprive her of final answer.

    This what we got in my find from the cave scene is signature of author who is genius, as genius must left signature.This is for us. Rey in the film got no information from it. We did.
    Rey, our love,forever.
     
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    no, she went in hoping the cave would tell her that her parents were good and they were coming back for her (or a reason why they didn't), but it confirmed what she already knew: she's alone in the world because her drunk junker parents ditched her.

    Ben tells her that she's always known and makes her admit that she's always known; they are/were terrible people and she just didn't want to face it.
    pretty much in the direct opposite way Ben knows his own parents are not terrible people but he also doesn't want to face it.
     
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    Yes. The Sith (individuals) are deceptive.
    The Force, by it's nature is not deceptive.

    This is akin to saying gravity is deceptive because people lie about their weight.
    No, the people are deception, not gravity.

    You are conflating the sheer nature of the force with how individuals use it. There is a difference.

    To be deceptive, or anything other than just existing, the force would have to be manipulated in some way.

    The point being, The Force, the Caves etc are not deceptive. They are dark but not deceptive.
    Sith, individuals, are deceptive.
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    That's a bingo.

    The caves do not lie or deceive.
    They try to lure you to the darkside with fear.

    Rey's fear of being alone, of accepting that her parents weren't ever coming back.
    Luke's fear of not being able to face Darth Vader, of succumbing to the darkness.

    Palpatine was deceptive.
     
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    Definitely can see how traumatic this would be to a child. She could have easily blocked this out and replaced it with they are coming back for her. This would help give her some self-worth instead my parents are crap and I wasn't worth anything to them.
     
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    Also makes her an incredibly nuanced and tragic character...like most good heroes are
     
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    Her should have drank before TLJ.
    Lol
     
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