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Simon Pegg Says J.J. Abrams May Have Had Something Else in Mind for Reys Parentage

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by SWNN Probe, Apr 4, 2018.

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    I have a really bad eye for detail, so maybe it's just me, but I definitely don't see what I'm apparently supposed to see here.
     
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    It also pays off to read the exact Pegg's quote (about the idea being thrown around, never actually being defined) and also to remember Daisy's interview in which she said that the Rey's parentage revealed TLJ was what she was said while filming TFA (it could be Rolling Stone, I'm not sure). So, Pegg said something much different than what click bait articles all over internet are saying and our new lead is saying something completely different.
     
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    Does it mean I can use my new Natalie Portman "clickbait" gif? It does. It definitely does.
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    Who do we believe, Pegg, who was on set for 5 minutes, or Ridley, who played the main character?

    Source
     
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    Sooooooo.... In Luke's dying moments he realizes that he has a daughter?? Or maybe he simply realizes that he is not the Last Jedi (if we speculate that the second sun = Rey).

    Interesting symbolism and super extra awesome if it truly means something.
     
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    regarding the rumor/fan petition/etc regarding Meryl Streep as Leia:
    It garnered enough attention for a BBC article.
    I'd link it but maybe we are not allowed to link to other sites.

    Also regarding Daisy Ridley's knowledge regarding Rey's parentage: Everyone, the "haters" and the "defenders" seems to agree that regardless of trilogy planned/not planned TLJ sucks/does not suck that the story is ever changing. So Ridley's knowlege may be useless at any given time
     
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    I know I faced my worst fear... that TLJ would suck and give the single worst answers to mystery box questions.

    RJ's idiotic 'face her worst fears', only further confirms he was the wrong person for the job. Try making a cohesive story that follows through on its predecessor next time, ya little whippersnapper.

    Its like the definition of losing the forest through the trees, by focusing on one singular aspect to the detriment of the overall whole. That he thought this was going to be on the level of Luke's Father reveal says it all about how badly he miscalculated.
     
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    This is the obvious answer. Daisy Ridley has known the answer since she started TFA. That means RJ/JJ were already aligned about this story choice years ago. The story went through all kinds of revisions during the process of production. I've always thought that Rey was supposed to be a lost Solo child at some point and they decided not to go in that direction (thank goodness).

    This is why the book Bloodline was approved to be written and published. The storygroup knew it wouldn't interfere with the larger story. This story from Pegg is only really interesting to people who wanted Rey to be a Solo/Skywalker. I'm thankful the powers that be decided to go in a more original direction. Although, JJ gave us Death Star 3.0 so maybe he'll hit us with dreadful family reveal in the end.
     
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    Get in, sit down, shut up, and hold on.....IT'S COMING, JJ's AT THE WHEEL!! :)
     
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    I just don't see why spending any more time on Rey's parents is important to the story. If she's related to someone important what will that change? She already was optimistic about Ben. Would he being her brother change anything for the two of them? Not really. If she's related to some dead person we all know how does change anything for Rey? Palpatine and Obi-Wan are dead. Why would Rey care? The story is now about Kylo vs. Rey. The parents aren't really relevant.
    There's no hidden meaning in Luke's death. Rian Johnson completed the film long before JJ came back to write his story.
     
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    At this point I just wish Disney make up their mind and make Rey Abeloth.
     
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    I agree. Just saying if there is any truth to it, i could only envisage her being a Kenobi or Palpatine. But I highly doubt it, don’t really like it and am more than happy with what we’ve got.

    However, I am keen to see how JJ creates conflict for Rey in IX beyond her potentially failing to beat the bad guys. There needs to be an element where we wonder whether she will turn.
     
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    Rey to BB-8 in TFA "I know all about waiting. For my family. They'll be back. One day."

    Maz to Rey "Dear Child. I see your eyes. You already know the truth. Whomever you’re waiting for on Jakku (her family), they’re NEVER coming back. (Rey cries) But… there’s someone who still could..."

    Han is just upstairs in Maz's castle, what's the point of Maz saying this to Rey and making her cry if her uncle/father is upstairs ?

    Even for Abrams Rey was not a member of the Skywalker family.
     
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    Do you think that's even in play? The whole "will Luke turn" thing was such a big part of the OT, but it seems played out. She had that choice on the Supremacy with Kylo. Her challenge could be protecting the new Jedi Order. So Kylo will likely be her conflict. Will he turn? If he doesn't will she put him down?
     
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    Yeah. Not the only way to read this:
    Maz to Rey "Dear Child. I see your eyes. You already know the truth. Whomever you’re waiting for on Jakku (her mom or whomever left her there), they’re NEVER coming back. (Rey cries) But… there’s someone who still could...”
    Rey to Maz “Luke....”

    So, this suggests Luke could “come back” to her life — meaning he had been a part of it long ago. And it suggests the people/person who left her on Jakku wasn’t Luke. All the TLJ tells us that Luke doesn’t recognize Rey (or he doesn’t tell us/her he recognizes her). And that Kylie thinks (or wants Rey to think) she was abandoned on Jakku, which she was.
     
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    the "someone who still could returns" could be Luke from his exile/Ben from the dark side, cause just after she meets Kylo Ben in the woods

    Kylo never lied to Rey, he can't, remember that it's Rey who says her parents were "nobodies", not Kylo, because of the connection they have Kylo has seen what happened with Rey's parents (Kylo has access to Rey's memories, Rey has access to Kylo's Force abilities/training), Rey lied to herself because the truth was too hard to accept.

    That's the whole point of the character of Rey: she's a nobody who become somebody in contrast to Kylo the legacy Skywalker character.

    If you think that Rey will be the daughter of a famous character in Episode 9 prepare for disappointment.
     
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    Dooku "the truth ? What if I told you that the Republic was now under the control of a dark lord of the Sith?"

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    Vader "I am your father"

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    "They were filthy junk traders. Sold you off for drinking money. They're dead in a pauper's grave in the Jakku desert"

    Since 1980 the truth has always been used by darksiders to lure the heroes to the dark side in the second movie of every trilogy.
     
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    Yeah, you’re probably right. I think I mentioned above how it seems likely that the Ren relationship will be the main point of conflict. However, I don’t think it right that Rey has overcome the dark side yet. I think the story would benefit if we weren’t 100% confident of her own path.
     
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    I never thought the specific answer to, "Who are Rey's parents?" was the big question after seeing TFA, but rather the question, "Why aren't they around?"

    With JJ being such a huge fan of KOTR (but not wanting to copy it directly), it always made sense to me that Rey was a very young student of Luke's and he promised Rey's parents that he would watch over her, which made him a parental/teacher figure. Ben destroys the Jedi school and saves Rey (TFA force vision with the Knights of Ren) after thinking Luke is trying to kill him. Ben drops Rey off on Jakku (Rey at this point is too young to understand what's happening). The timeline and age of the characters works perfectly. Rey's parents are still nobody, but has two very important figures (Luke and Kylo) that care about her very much, but from opposite sides of the force (light and dark). At the end of TFA Luke knew exactly who she was, he would train her, but Kylo would eventually reveal to her that it was he who saved her after Luke tried to kill him, fearing (leading to the dark side) that Luke may do the same to her. It would intertwine a variety of complex emotions and leave Rey with two "parental/guardian figures" of sorts that would imitate family, but would also be against each other with her stuck in the middle, the balance.

    Oh well, I was hoping for something cool like this but at least we got to see Luke go fishing, drink sea cow milk, complete two of three lessons for Rey, and fight Kylo.. sorta, kinda... not really. :D
     
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