TFA Soundtrack Listing

Unlikely.
Real world "holograms" aren't like Star Wars holograms at all.

 

Yes of course, but I was talking about like maybe a version of that but made to fit the ILM standards? I personally would think that it's really cool if Luke could be acting in another room while he's projected live into the scene to give added realism and MAYBE cleaned uo properly during Post. I've heard of this technology which has been almost (or directly) lifted from the way video games are created .

 

So... about the soundtrack...

 

well that's about it, great job pomo

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so they pulled the tracks

 

Yep... someone might even lose their job over it.
Track listing released early on the official Amazon listing in 3 different countries.
There are people who might be a bit mad about that.

 

No, it doesn't, not when he's in a supporting role.

Gosh, you mean like the JUSTICE LEAGUE?





LMAO! It's only...ya know...the most famous super team of all time, lol!


Not everything has to be about this "overshadowing" thing and a pissing contest for "who gets the credit for saving the day"....they can both do it and face a threat that requires both of them. That would be smart.

Were you involved with the writing process? Again, you say that as though you've seen the film, when you really don't know the how or why things were done that way. You're guessing.....like the rest of us.

Even so, there's no reason why a great story couldn't have been made that involves everyone in decent screen time.

Well the actions of the character Obi Wan and the character Han Solo are vastly different, being the "wise old sage" passing wisdom on to the next generation is what Obi Wan was specifically, so that would clash with Ford saying that's not what his character is in the film.

I'll take Ford's words over yours.

All fine, but your question of "Why would Luke care about the Resistance VS First Order?" was moronic, and out of character for Luke. Innocent lives are in danger, his friends are in danger, it's the Empire 2.0, of course Luke would care.

You don't know any of that either, lol.

No, he'd be behaving as Luke as it's in character for him to fight the Empire and not abandon his friends to them, reskinned as The First Order or not.

It should, or there'll be hell to pay.

All of which could be achieved with the original characters in supporting roles, not 2 second cameos.

It is hypocritical to claim that people who want to see Luke only care about nostalgia when everything in the movie is about nostalgia, my point, you apparently missed, or chose to ignore.

Again, there's no reason why Luke couldn't be in a supporting role along with Han and Leia and in the film for 5-10 minutes (not a 2 second cameo) without impeding the development and focus on the new characters.

Which still doesn't work because we didn't know who those characters were at the time of the film, so no one would be "overwhelmed" with focusing on them like you errantly claim people would be with Luke, Han, and Leia in The Force Awakens.

I'm not whining, I'm sharing realistic, natural expectations. Of course one would expect to see Luke, Han, and Leia prominently in the Return Of The Jedi sequel. There's no reason why they wouldn't have.

So you'll like whatever they tell you to, and there's no idea that someone could do with the characters that would piss you off. Got it.

Hypothetical or not, it was an inaccurate comparison.

If that is the case, then they shouldn't have written a movie where Luke is in it for 2 seconds, effectively disappointing pretty much...everyone who likes the character and isn't an apologist.

And it's maximized and guaranteed when they put the character everyone has been waiting to see for the last 32 years in the film for a 2 second cameo. There are ways to minimize disappointment...this is doing the opposite of that.

Too much setting the stage, not enough getting on with the show. As though people wouldn't have come back for Episode 8 if they were satisfied with 7 and Luke were in it for more than 2 seconds, lol.

I never said I'd be disappointed with the film as a film, I just maintain that regardless, it will always be disappointing that Luke was in the Return Of The Jedi sequel for 2 seconds as a voiceless cameo any way you cut it.

For all we know we may not see his face and he may not even speak....

2 second voiceless cameo confirmed.

Mega disappointing.

In that context, probably not, but again, this comes back to the awful decision to make a movie that has Luke in it for 2 seconds. Not like it had to be that way.

That's why I said EVERYTHING ELSE about TFA is fan service, so it's understandable that people who want to see Luke feel slighted when Nien Nunb and Simon Pegg are in the movie more than Luke is. It's a giant middle finger to everyone, and there's no reason for it.

Common sense always said the EU would never be used for a film, as though George Lucas and whoever wouldn't have wanted to write their own script based off of their own ideas.

It will have been the most expected death ever, but it will absolutely suck when Han doesn't get the sendoff he deserves, and that even if Luke is given more screen time in Episode 8, we will never see Luke, Han, and Leia together again, and the worst part is that we'll have had an opportunity to. Once in a lifetime opportunity absolutely wasted. Thanks, Disney.

"Classic style"? Is that what ripping off the plot of A New Hope is? Most fans have seen A New Hope, and liked it just fine....but a new story would be welcome. Not doing A New Hope remake minus Luke.

Well it can't be too difficult: Episode 7 is A New Hope ripoff, so it only follows that they'll try to rip off Empire Strikes Back with Episode 8.

They're trying to please as many brain dead people as possible, the people who will see it and go "This is like A New Hope! I like A New Hope, here, take my money" lowest common denominator.

A New Hope rip off confirmed X2000.

If you want to call Ford a liar, be my guest, but his word carries much more weight than yours, Ford flat out said he isn't the Obi Wan type in the film....I'm not sure how much else there is to say.

Completely hypothetical, I have no idea. Perhaps they abandoned him. Who knows?

Hypothetically, a lot else may have changed if they were made chronologically. Move along.

Sure, but there was no reason to do a film where Luke is only in it for 2 seconds to begin with. Time to get some other ideas.

The argument was that including Luke, Han, and Leia in the film beyond 2 second cameos in supporting roles wouldn't have been detrimental to any of the new characters, it only would have made more people happy. Whereas Luke being in the film for a mere 2 second voiceless cameo where he does nothing, where Luke, Han, and Leia never interact, and on top of all that they kill Han Solo, meaning we will NEVER see the big 3 again is bound to disappoint a lot of people. So it's easy to shrug it off like "oh, you can't please everyone", but it's also incredibly disingenuous: less people would have been disappointed, obviously, if a good film were made where Luke is in it more.

No, they aren't irrelevant. They're very relevant: of course it's realistic to expect to see Luke, Han, and Leia in the Return Of The Jedi sequel. It only shows how out of touch and unwise Hollywood is if they ignore this. They'd be idiotic to not have their finger on the pulse of what people want to see.

To see Luke -- a character that I only expected to see in the film because they brought him back -- for more than 2 seconds is so creatively restrictive to them that they couldn't have made a movie is what you're saying, just to be clear...

Yeah, NO WAY could someone have written ANYTHING complex or multi-layered if they gave the original cast more screen time than Simon Pegg! Like, what do I think they are, creative or something? LOL

Oh, don't be so condescending. I have some things I'd like to see in the film, same as everyone, it's just too bad not everyone can be so empty headed as to just gobble up whatever's tossed in front of them all of the time like good little wallets who have no say in what they buy, no dissenting, no questions asked. It's too bad someone other than shills may have been excited for the movie. You can mock it all you want, but you know that people expecting to see Luke in this film were only following common sense and it was a natural expectation. You make it sound like because one person has a single hope with the film that that miniscule expectation has prohibited all forms of creativity with it, and that is disingenuous and simply not the case.

But at least of we don't like the new characters, Disney knows they can always tease us with seeing a member of the OT featured prominently in one of the sequels as a fail safe because they know we'll come see that, so it's good business to space each one of the original cast members out across the films instead of all at once like everyone thought and hoped they would, right?

Huzzah for "creativity"!

LOL

 

i like these guys views and thoughts on the soundtrack titles and wanted to know what you thought or agreed?

 

Same track total 23 tracks. But Lucasfilm wants their titles hidden apparently so that's why the amazon listing lasted about 12 hours on a U.S. holiday.

 

Look at the bright side: if Luke is only in a 2 second cameo with no interction with Han/Leia/Chewy, then it is confirmed that he doesn't go dark and kill Han, right???

 

I can fly anything is Poe and Finn's escape. The Rathtar's are the cargo/live stock on Han's freighter. Torn Apart is Han's Death. Ways of the Force is the Duel between Finn,Rey and Kylo. These guys aren't too up to speed on their spoilers.

 

yep, occam's razor. No grand conspiracy by some trolling amazon europe employee. The tracks came out, simple.

 

True...true....they can't ruin Luke if he's not in the movie!

Spoiler

....but f**k them for that. XD

 

yeah it's looking likely that the amazon europe track names were legit. The only thing that might change COULD be that some of the track names were placeholders. I doubt it but not long now

 

Placeholder names that get pulled hours later? Unlikely.

 

http://www.jwfan.com/?p=8381 (fan site)

http://www.jwfan.com/?p=8372 (fan site)

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Also, an upcoming book called Star Wars: 5-Minute Star Wars Stories has Rathtar creatures in it according to a recent image leak, which aligns with the leaked ninth track tite, "The Rathtars!"

 

Individual track times on Google Play now:

1 Main Title and the Attack on the Jakku Village 6:25
2 The Scavenger 3:39
3 I Can Fly Anything 3:11
4 Rey Meets BB-8 1:31
5 Follow Me 2:54
6 Rey’s Theme 3:11
7 The Falcon 3:32
8 That Girl with the Staff 1:58
9 The Rathtars! 4:05
10 Finn’s Confession 2:08
11 Maz’s Counsel 3:07
12 The Starkiller 1:51
13 Kylo Ren Arrives at The Battle 2:01
14 The Abduction 2:25
15 Han and Leia 4:41
16 March of the Resistance 2:35
17 Snoke 2:03
18 On the Inside 2:05
19 Torn Apart 4:19
20 The Ways of the Force 3:14
21 Scherzo for X-wings 2:32
22 Farewell and the Trip 4:55
23 The Jedi Steps and Finale 8:51