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The Boy at the End of the Hallway

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by FN NewGuy, Feb 27, 2016.

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Who is the boy?

  1. Ben Solo

  2. Finn

  3. Anakin

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    It is you ? Of course, it is her. During the whole movie, Snoke is talking about an awakening and the officers are talking about a girl.

    He was chasing a droid and 2 fugitives before he met her. Of course, he knows who she was, that was the point of the hunt ...

    It doesn't mean that he already know her, it means that he finally can put a face on that girl everybody is talking about in the movie.
     
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    That scene went through many iterations according to Kasdan and the editors. So that's why there's so many different versions of it in the books (script, movie, novelization, junior novelization, Rey's story, etc.) Even the Yoda and Obi-Wan voice-overs didn't make it into the script they were changing it so often.

    On the topic of Cloud City...

    https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?posts/252673/ (fixed link)
     
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    Hang on, doesn't he have that line AFTER the interrogation scene? It would be kinda odd that he didn't have a face for "the girl that everybody was talking about in the movie", or well, in this case - the book.
     
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    he knows it's the girl everyone's talking about, he just doesn't know that she's the awakening until she grabs the saber.
    throughout the book especially, he suspects there's something special about her, but he's not sure what it is. and she's just a scavenger, so he keeps dismissing it because he's an elitist clod.

    then she reverses the mind probe on him and he starts to suspect. by the time she gets the saber from him, it's absolutely confirmed.
     
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    Pablo Hidalgo says that the line "it is you" refers to Kylo Ren finally connecting the awakening of the Force to Rey when she outdoes his Force pull of the Lightsaber.
     
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    Yeah... that makes perfect sense. Thanks for clarifying!
     
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    That was crystal clear for me.

    It is you, the awakening. That's somehow the point of the movie. He could have figure it a lot sooner but Ben Solo doesn't seem to be very clever.
     
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    Kylo Ren in a scene from Rey's future. When I can post I will give more details (or you can find it on reddit)
     
    #28 Cabarius, Feb 29, 2016
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    "He's just a boy. Obi-Wan can no longer help him." - Darth Vader
    "I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker." - Emperor Palpatine
    "That boy is our last hope." - Obi-Wan
    "The boy has no patience." - Yoda
     
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    It didn't say "little," btw . I think by "boy" they mean Luke Skywalker instinctively sensing Rey from the future through the force since he does it with Leia on Bespin right then and there and he is so tapped into the force when he's fighting with Darth Vader that he instinctively calls to Rey without realizing it which is why they both exchange heavy looks when they first they physically meet in person at the final seconds of TFA .
     
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    I think it could be any of the Skywalkers but I personally think it's Anakin. The responses on this one have been a lot of fun, by the way. Looking forward to more!
     
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    The question is why did she see Luke or Anakin or a 'boy' ...

    It may have a meaning.
     
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    The "boy" in the vision only appears in the two novelizations, but not the other retellings that have been released (script, movie, Rey's Story). AFAIK.
     
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    You're right, it didn't say 'little'. I guess I imagine this scene coming from Rey's perspective as written. Given her age, if it's Luke, I'd imagine him being significantly younger than he was in A New Hope. If it's any of the previous characters (not a younger version of Luke than what we've seen) it would be Anakin IMO. If not one of the previously establish characters, then Ben, unknown random, or possibly (less likely) Finn.
     
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    That was what the Junior novelization says.
     
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    I think a better question is "What does it matter?" My answer is it doesn't because regardless of who it is the point of that scene is the same.
     
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    May I suggest that we start this thread over? I'm afraid some of us are talking past each other because some discuss the vision in the book, and some discuss the vision in the movie. I had no intention of quarrelling with anybody about how big or little boys are. Seriously. :)

    Here's the whole vision, as it appears in the novelisation (found it on Reddit):
    As far as I can see, novelisation-Rey has a vision of the Cloud City confrontation. She can identify the place, she can see two people fight. We as readers can of course identify these two people as Vader and Luke. Then she sees a boy at the end of the hallway. The question is thus: Is one of the characters she has just seen supposed to morph into the boy, or is the boy supposed to be someone else?
     
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    I think it's clear that her vision spans events that have taken place over several decades. There are visuals and voices from many different people, living and dead. I think the original question is fine and well. Who is the boy? And what significance does he pose to Rey?
     
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    Okay. What I find significant is that the sight of the boy sets her emotion, and it moves the entire vision forward, to the Knights of Ren, the destruction of the temple, and the final battle in the woods. Which is why I'd say it's Ben. He has the same emotional connection to the Cloud City confrontation Rey sees from a distance. Rey seems to be intrigued by him from the get-go, willing to move towards him.
     
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    The little boy could be Ben Solo, someone related to her or a child from Luke's fallen Jedi academy.
     
    #40 Finn of Ren, Mar 1, 2016
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