The Last Jedi Reactions Thread

Smarter? Not really. The completely pointless casino crap is more or less retarded.

 

YEEES! Second viewing done, I’m out of limbo! The Last Jedi is soooo friggin good! Besides cringing at about five of the jokes 2,5h awesomeness

Edit: And by awesomeness I don’t mean perfection, Star Wars never is.

 

Sure he was a little two-dimensional but so was the Emperor. Just another mysterious big bad to manipulate the heavies and heroes and help grow the arcs of others methinks.

Hope is like this son - full of delusion. But if we only have it when we see Ben he'll never make it through the dark...or something something

Anyway it will be interesting to see what happens next. Technically Kylo's more Solo now than ever - the puppeteer is gone, the monster is alive. Let's see what becomes of Kyloner without a master manipulator in his head.

 

It looks like thus far we have a clear majority of people who liked or loved it it (7-10 points)

 

I need to watch it again because I made the strategic mistake of signing up for a TFA/TLJ double-feature in one of the old IMAX theaters with cramped seating. So I was claustrophobic and uncomfortable the whole time, which impacted my experience of the movie. Still really enjoyed it, with some reservations:

Scenes:
- Favorite: The Kylo/Rey force-skype scenes -- I was really into their connection and how it toes this line of will-they / won't-they. Supremacy explosion. Everything on Crait, especially the Luke/Kylo showdown.
- Least favorite: Canto Bight in general, with extra demerits for the horse-thing chase on Canto Bight. The CG looked and felt like the prequels. I thought Rose was alright, but I kept thinking how much more interesting and fun it would be if it were Finn/Poe instead doing their bromance/romance thing at the Casino, getting distracted and totally failing at their mission or accidentally succeeding (remember their chemistry in the first few minutes of TFA when Finn breaks Poe out?).

Performances:
- Favorite: I thought Adam Driver did a great job as somebody who seems like both an immature monster and emotionally wise. Imagine somebody else trying to pull off such a weird tonal range -- I can't even think of another actor. I also thought Mark Hamill and Fisher were great. I didn't like her performance in TFA and felt they were actually cutting around it, but she was solid here. I was also surprised in a good way by Laura Dern's take on her character, how gentle and reserved she is. Bonus points to the First Order Dreadnaught commander who died in the first battle -- I thought he showed up and was really convincing in a limited role.
- Least favorite: I like most of Benicio's take but the stutter was stupid.

Duos:
- Favorite: Kylo/Rey by far. I was really intrigued by where their storyline was going.
- Least Favorite: Rose/Finn. Both are charming enough, but the chemistry felt lacking for some reason; it might've just been because their storyline was weaker

Surprises:
- Favorite: Killing off Snoke mid-way thru, because it was a genuine surprise
- Least favorite: Killing off Snoke mid-way thru, because we knew basically nothing about him; felt like it would be more impactful if we knew a little bit more about his backstory and his relationship with Kylo -- instead, he's just fodder for Kylo's development

And a bonus category...
- Things missing: We learned nothing about ancient jedi lore, or dark side lore, didn't see any dark side training for Kylo, no glimpses or even mentions of the unknown regions. A real missed opportunity to deepen the saga. The lack of ancient lore is especially disappointing given Kylo's theme of killing the past -- for example, burning the Force Tree is more impactful if we understand its significance.

 

I've been thinking about the SuperLeia scene and here's my defense:

In a sense of cruelest irony, Leia much like Carrie herself, was not ready to go. In that moment. Every ounce of her fought to stay a live and maybe the force wasn't done with her yet. You have no idea what you are capable of in the worst situation until you are in it. Like when a man flips a car off a trapped child.
When Carrie passed, don't forget she fought hard and she didn't go without a fight, and neither did Leia.

Just my .02

 

No, not a good defense. The scene is awful.

 

No, not a good post. This post is awful.

 

Yes. But not as awful as the Leia Poppins scene.

 

Probably worse actually.
You could try entertaining debate but you also throw "retarded" around flippantly so I shouldn't expect better.

 

Hmmm, so what happens when two equal and opposing forces come together? Repelling? Summing?

Luke defeated his enemies by saving what he loved (like Rose said). If it's impossible for Rey and Kylo to destroy each other through the Force it will be interesting to see how that theme relates to Ep 9.

 

I think you saw with the lightsaber...it fractures. it causes an explosion, violence.

 

Is that word also banned now?

 

Okay.

I watched TJL twice. To me TLJ snugly fits a spot between TPM and AOTC.

To me personally for up to 45 minutes, I felt like I was watching a Star Wars parody film. On a serious note humour is required in a film but when there is an overdose of humour it becomes a parody.

That Leia super girl scene in space. Doesn't these space ships have shield doors like the one on General Grievous ship from ROTS. As soon as the bridge is exposed to vacuum, shield doors starts actuating and seals the bridge from further venting the air to outside space. I mean if it was done to show that Leia can use force there are number of creative ways which they could have gone with.

Transition between the scenes is incoherent, I mean it was very random it takes sometime to comprehend who was doing what. I felt like the entire film was made by a group of directors and script writers rather than one man steering the ship.

I was all hyped up for the light sabre duel between Rey and Kylo vs Praetorian guards, some of the reviews from premiere and preview showered great praise for this light sabre duel but it turned out to be a whimper, it was dull and lack of energy.

Light sabre duel between Kylo Ren vs Rey from TFA had intense energy and never a dull moment.

Kylo Ren's character arc nose dives. I personally feel Kylo Ren's character was well written in TFA rather than TLJ.

Snoke getting sliced into two halves is a ballsy move, we will get to find out in Ep-9 or through some other cannon material whether Snoke is really dead or Sneaky Snokey Palpy was just messing with others in throne room.

There are loads of easter eggs in this film. It will take at least 5 viewings to spot them all.

Only solace in this film was Mark Hamill's performance. Luke's story arc is muddled and it makes him the ultimate baddie who pushed Ben Solo to become Kylo Ren. Portrayal of Luke's characteristic traits is very much questionable and directly contradicts his choice from the very final moments in ROTJ.

There are a lot of scenes in TLJ which rhymes with OT saga. Take that cavern scene on Ach-To, it beautifully depicts that cavern is a mirror which mirrors the choice which Rey makes, it shows her past as well as her future i.e. the choice and it's effects. It's very reminiscent of the cave scene from ESB.

Poe Dameron's character always reminds me of MAVERICK Lt Pete Mitchell from Top Gun. I can't help it there is an uncanny resemblance to Poe and Maverick. He is the hot shot to lookout for in Ep-9.

I don't know what's the point of having Finn and Rose on this mission to disable the hyperspace tracker, which they never achieve their objective. Perhaps it's just to introduce a new character named DJ and to invigorate a romance between Rose and Finn.

Hux is "huggs" all the way and Phasma is "let's go chrome dome" is gone.

Maestro John Williams never disappoints.

In a bottom line TLJ is all about the individuals and their choices which they make will set the future course for them. Past cannot be undone but at the same time future is also not set, that's the message which TLJ tries to convey in a rather convoluted way.

 

No but most people know to not throw it flippantly as a pejorative.

 

Something I've noticed with regard to a lot of negative reactions is a complaint that something happened with no explanation. But in fact there were explanations given in the dialogue.

How Rey and Ben were connected. Why Yoda had missed Luke. Etc.

I'm not really trying to criticize anyone, but are audiences so detuned from paying attention to relatively longs exchanges of dialogue that they're just not paying attention as closely as they should? And it's not just Star Wars, but most movies or TV shows. Like in Game of Thrones every week whole groups of people are whining about something that was CLEARLY referred to in a bit of dialogue.

 

Yet they both survive and little changes...

 

foreshadowing IMO.
This is going to end with combustion.

 

I'd give them a wide berth for their next tussle then. Bystanders might get hurt.

 

Collateral damage is something that looks like it is on the horizon for these films in terms of discussion...