The truth about Snoke (Attention: TLJ Spoilers)

How about the Nightsisters in Rebels? That would be the closest to that.

 

I could see him returning. The way they zoomed in on him after he died was strange. If Snoke does return then they have to kill him in Episode 9 right? How do you kill him? If he survives Episode 8 he'll look almost invincible.

 

If you want an example in canon on the top of my head Mother Talzin. In legends there are uncountable examples, just because it's not canon is not an argument to discard it as a possibility, it doesn't work that way, it has clearly been a recurring theme in star wars mythology and could happen again in canon at any time.

 

Oh my ... There's at least a billion "immortal" characters in movies, video games, anime, cartoons... They all end up dead sooner or later no matter how invincible they look.

If Snoke is dead dead dead, well that's a bummer, so much potential.
In a way Snoke was (could still be) a bridge between this ST and Star Wars lore, even new one (lore), who better than Snoke and his unknown regions to create mystery like the OT and the feeling of something being prepared in the shadows like the PT ?

Killing Snoke is the biggest dodge ever, more than Rey's parents, more than Luke's exile.

This kept me from enjoying the best scene in the movie, a team up is what I expected, it's what I wanted to see, but not like this...

3 factions would've been so awesome : in the PT we had a little of that, but it was trully orchestrated by palp.
Here it would be awesome to have a crippled resistance, diminished 1st order and 2 rogue force users.
(I can picture Rey and Kylo marching like the bros of the eternal throne)

 

I LOVE this theory and truly hope it comes to fruition.

However, I feel that if they were planning this all along, they would've included a more direct hint that Snoke was a projection (perhaps a brief shot of Snoke's 'corpse' shimmering every-so-slightly -or at almost imperceptible levels to keep fans questioning what they actually saw- before cutting to a different scene)...

 

I'm not sure what we are discussing anymore she was capable of dematerializing her body and existing as a spirit, she could materialize again and even posses people, seems like a very similar ability to me if not more powerful.

Also Legends is simply whatever was published before April 2014 that is not the movies or the Clone Wars series, it is not selectively discarded. If you want to believe that nothing in legends will ever influence future canon publications it's your call but it doesn't make any sense to me.

 

It is not stated that Snoke is a dark-sider exclusively.

His matching the form of the Prime Jedi would suggest that there is something else going on there. Either he was the Prime Jedi or he is an entity that possessed him. I would imagine him to be a master of both the light and dark. He would certainly be capable of Force projection and other light sided abilities, it just matches him too perfectly. Manipulating over great distances and always being disguised. Snoke and mirrors my friends. His entire throne room being set up like a stage with massive red curtain, I consider his death to be pantomime at this point. Of course, Lucasfilm can blast all over that when they release episode IX, but his survival is what I am currently interested in discussing and hoping for in order to get a proper conclusion.

I think he is a great character to discuss and speculate about, it would be a dis-service to the franchise for him to not be tied into the entire saga, especially when it is stated he has been present and watching for so long. For example, if they do re-introduce Plagueis, but Plagueis isn't Snoke, it would make no sense.

 

Also Yoda can now conjure force lightning storms from the sky, so the line between what is a dark or light side abilities seems even more blurred.

 

“Abrams is poised to give audiences some “big surprises” with Episode IX. Apparently they’ve had no interference from Kathleen or Pablo or the Lucasfilm Story Group, 114D writes. [Episode IX] is also the film which unites all three trilogies and brings everything together.”

Ok, if this is legit, I’m confirming Plagueis right now... and that’s an end to it! I suggest the ‘Darth Plagueis in the ST thread’ AKA the most popular thread in the forum, is moved to the Episode IX section
immediately. It’s time for #TeamPlagueis to make their final move.

 

Maybe them (Kylo and Rey) still being wi-fi'd at the end implies that Snoke is still alive.
Unless they can still chat despite not having the wi-fi password ...
Snoke>discord>skype>messenger (that rank is purely subjective)

 

In rebels, during the maul arc, Season 3 Eps 10, we have the nightsister ghosts/spirits indwelling our heroes.

I don't think snoke is a projection, I think he was indwelled by an evil that is dead and thus can stay immortal. Maybe called by another name, but in essence, a Plagueis character. Certainly within realm of possibility.

 

Rey went straight to the dark side. I think it's really possible she is Palpatine's grand daughter. So I think Snoke may have set his death up.

And its moviemaking 101, don't think like a fan but think like JJ Abrams or Rian Johnson. You need two things:

1. A mysterious dark force to last through at least 4-6 movies. Like Darth Sidious was.

2. It's 2017, moviegoers expect twists. This started with the tv series a while ago, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Lost, etc. Moviegoers demand their mouths fall open during a movie.

But the characters being iconic in Star Wars (Luke, Leia, Han, definitely Snoke, etc) and their already being the "force ghost" notion and now force projection means you can shock audiences without committing to anything. It was only natural for this film to have been like this.

Snoke is 100% not dead, he was too well made, too mysterious and too Macchiavellian to not fake kill to shock audiences.

PS: but the other shocks in the movie were too much if you ask me. The forced humor, those forced one liners that take you out of the movie, so much CHEESE. The Last Jedi really needs an ANTI CHEESE edit as well.

 

I heard the leek about Ray being a reincarnation of the first force user before seeing the movie, while watching it with that in mind, I realized; Ray will bring true balance to the force. I think Luke really was the last Jedi, and Ray is doing to master both Dark and Light before opening a school for both Sith and Jedi, teaching them the lights control and the darks power.

 

Whatever Palpatine senses in the Unknown Regions in the Aftermath novels, the damage to Snoke's face, and Snoke's ability to use The Force all have to mean something.

 

I know it would be a long stretch, but they can still do something about it if they want and if it fits their narrative of episode IX. He really went down too easily to my liking. And since they don't all work together on the trilogy as a team, now JJ can do sort of 180 turn again without any problem.

Long live the Supreme Leader!

 

Does anyone remember there was some snoke merchandise pre-release that referred to him in th past tense. Everyone thought it was a mistake??