VISUAL DICTIONARY HAS LEAKED!

It’s interesting that the stuff about Leia, Poe, and Holdo seems to line up some with some very early leaks/rumors about TLJ

 

I agree.

I think that in this trilogy, Ben and Rey could represent what the original, uncorrupted idea of the Jedi could be.
Snoke, if he was the Prime Jedi, at some point, became corrupted by the power or was never really what he said he was.
What I mean by that is I don't buy the idea that the right way is to use both light and dark but rather to know and understand both ways in order to be able to resolve the conflict.

My bet is that this Prime Jedi attained God-like knowledge, but as in "The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull", this knowledge corrupted him - and he wanted to use both the light and dark side. But the latter took over him.

And for the Jedi at the time this divided them. The "true Jedi" saw the Dark Side as the source of conflict and sought to eliminate it entirely - even stopping their members from exploring relationships and so forth. They shut themselves off from the Dark Side and as such, from the galaxy. The other faction, which became the Sith, were loyal to the Prime Jedi and wanted to experience the Dark Side in full. The "true Jedi" destroyed the Prime Jedi/Snoke and eventually defeated the Sith.

But Darth Bane survived - and he was part of a long term Sith plan of revenge that wasn't just about their own individual power and defeating the Jedi - but resurrecting the Prime Jedi. That is why the Sith all lived by this ancient plan without acting in their own interests. Each one brought something new to the plan: Bane - the rule of two, Plagueis - create life/cheat death, Palpatine - destroy the Jedi...the idea being that the chosen one, Anakin, would be the one for Snoke to take over and be resurrected.

But going back to what the goal is here:
The idea of using the Dark Side being acceptable goes against the foundations of Lucas' story and I don't buy that they will change that.
My view remains that the eventual realisation for Rey and Ben will be that the Jedi need to have a full understanding of the Dark Side and a mastery over it (not using, but the ability to truly avoid it through knowledge) so that they can resolve the conflict in the galaxy.

The mistake the old Jedi made and maybe Luke, was that they tried to stop all conflict for all time. This cannot be done. There will always be a Dark Side and bad people will always try to take over.

 

Now that made muh mufugging day.

 

Mortis is named as a Force-drenched world in the VD, along with Ahch-To and Dagobah...Very interesting...

 

Its really looks like him. If you take a look on his head. Light side i mean left side of his face is less damaged then the dark one. Wtf ?

tst

 

Gotta be Snoke.

 

I fear it doesn't compute, Snoke is anything than balanced being in itself, he is on the far end of the dark side obviously.

 

Yep.

"First of the Order"...I mean, come on!

 

Because he has been corrupted. But he was once this Prime Jedi...

 

So he is the cause of lost of balance,the corruption, killing him brings the balance back.

Prophecy says Chosen would bring the balance.

So the one who kills him must be Skywalker.....

 

What, no?
Strangely PH has said the prophecy was merely about the destruction of the Sith. So I don't know where that is going. But the balance was restored. They aren't changing that. This is "so much bigger" and likely is about the cycle of conflict that the Jedi we know tried to end and probably made worse. I don't know.

But nothing suggests that the one to kill Snoke must be a Skywalker.

 

PH has obsolutely majestic job.

Not that just his job means his work is about something which millions of people dream about and would do it for free, Star Wars, but he also can make an logical fallacy of the first order of magnitude and we must ( we must indeed ! ) hold on to it and take it as definitive..

What balance if the oldest and strongest Force sensitive being ever was not even touched in episode VI and became active emediately after(or worse , was active all along)?

Oh my head hurts.

 

There would be a case to be made that in order to truly defeat 'evil' you must accept that it is part of yourself. such as your shadow, and desires...its kinda what happens at the end of the matrix trilogy with Neo vs Agent Smith.

So Rey & kylo joing forces would represent a postive union to defeat Snoke who represents the corruption of light....not sure if that exactly makes sense, but I think there could be something to it.

Sounds like it will come down to Rey vs Snoke in the end though.

 

What I’m having a hard time grasping is, if the first Jedi has always been present, why hasn’t anyone felt his/it’s presence? As powerful and prominent and Snoke would be, i would think he’s giving off major force vibes that at least one of the 1000s of Jedi and Sith would pick up on.

 

i guess he's been lost out there in the unknown regions?
it was because Rax sent his people out there that he was found, most likely?

 

Well Aftermath would lead you to believe he made Palpatine aware some major darkside presence was in the unknown regions but not Vader. He probably had visions the Empire and Palpatine were going down.

 

Palpatine was surrounded by Jedi and no one ever knew he was dark side.

 

i agree, something about the idea that Snoke has been hiding for over 1000 years doesn't sit right with me.

the ring that's mentioned: gold etched with glyphs of... what? Dwartii? can't read it...

it is interesting that the obsidian stone is from Vader's palace.

EDIT: it's Dwartii, i guess. hadn't heard of this until now, but there's some limited info in Wookiepedia on it.