Where are the plot holes?

There’s been plenty of legitimate plot holes posted you’re just denying them for no reason. But keep telling yourself that to make the movie feel better.

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That's called a contradiction?
Definition: a combination of statements, ideas, or features of a situation that are opposed to one another.

And there you are... missing that definition by a mile because of your own logical fallacy

Where is the opposition.. Luke wanting to die alone, but he left a map with R2D2. Do you have any context into why he left that? or did you just assume and add in your own details?

See here is the problem with that line of thinking. You dare say plot hole, but then you make that deduction after FILLING IN GAPS in the story YOURSELF as you just did....

Wow, and I am allegedly the dumbass... You need to inspect that load of BS you're selling

EDIT: oh and don't delete your derogatory comment now... feel the anger, let that hate flow through you

 

Did you see how many were still remaining on the Supremacy and have you considered the amount of TIEs that would have still been left on the several other Resurgent-class Star Destroyers present in the battle? Besides, the First Order's fighters would have been able to attack the Raddus' subsystems mostly unopposed due to the all of the support craft being destroyed. In fact, why the First Order even wanted to pull back its fighters in the middle of such an immensely successful attack is beyond me. They had destroyed their support craft and killed MOST of the remaining Resistance leadership which would have inflicted a large drop in morale that could have been capitalized on. Besides, any losses taken could have been easily recouped since they apparently have dominance in the galaxy at this point and possess practically limitless resources.

All the First Order did in this battle was allow the Resistance to prepare transports for evacuation, prolonging this entire war unnecessarily. This doesn't even begin to scratch the wealth of inexplicably moronic tactical blunders in this battle like the lack of an active air combat patrol present at the very beginning.

 

Like I said you could make up any bs tinker bell pixie dust story and say it’s not a plot hole. Which is not the point of a plot hole. But you’re the smart one so I’ll let you guys think this is a flawless movie.

 

Yeah, I know they were ordered to. I'm saying that there was literally no reason to pull back given the fact that they were doing a pretty good job of destroying the Raddus to begin with.

 

I know a plot hole isn’t something that can be explained by some bs answer you just made up. I know that for sure

 

That's a cop out, nice way to avoid having to provide a valid rebuttal to my point.

Secondly, you aren't "Letting" me do anything. Thirdly, because we loved the movie, now we suddenly think it is flawless?

You have clearly loss the context of this discussion

 

So he wanted to go to the first jedi temple? Why?

 

That’s not a cop out. That’s what everyone is doing in here making up impossible illogical solutions to plot holes then making plot holes non existent

 

Are you suggesting that every single Plot Hole that has been mentioned is legit? Because otherwise I would love to see who exactly your talking too. If it was me. Cool your post followed mine. I would love to see a counter point to my counter point. But people not liking events isn't a plot hole. There is a definition. But few of these holes have fit within the definition.

She survives because Hodolo hits the ship. Her plan to turn Ben to the light failed spectacularly. It didn't go the way she thought. Luke was spot on.

Luke left part of a map with Lor San Tekka when he hoped one day to find the 1st temple. When he left R2 went into hibernation when Luke left. His memory had star charts from old imperial records that enabled them to put 2 and 2 together. In the time after Luke left to find the Temple his dispair grew and once on Achto and uninspired by what he found fell into self loathing and guilt. Its a progression because people aren't static. Deeply emotional characters who change over time aren't plot holes.

 

Seemed to have a continuity problem when Phasma & Troopers were marching back to Finn & Rose after the ship explodes. Weren't they right there with them?

 

The movie made "plot holes" non-existent. You guys keep making up stuff and calling it Plot holes. The word/phrase "Plot holes" itself is getting fed up with you all.

 

The fact that you can think a movie is perfect and not have any flaws whatsoever is what is causing plot holes to not exist.

 

I noticed that too....hahaha

 

So pursuing force we saw in this movie was the entirety of the First Order fleet? There were no other destroyers they could call to head them off? How is THAT not easily understood?

 

So I think the movie is perfect? Where did you hear that?

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Oh so you just call them, and they suddenly deploy from their bases and reach you in 5 minutes? ... okay... /sarcasm

 

I'm seeing it again tonight and I'll study that part closer.

 

I'll present my alleged plot hole in a more detailed way to see if anyone is up for debate:

The premise is the FO can track the Resistance destination if they jump to hyperspace, so they decide not to jump anymore in order to save fuel and escape at sub light speed.
Now here is the problem, either if we consider star wars physics(were ships have a top speed) or real physics were acceleration would be the key, the whole chase sequence implies all ships on both fleets have the same top speed/acceleration. The FO can not catch up to the Resistance and the Resistance can not gain distance from the FO, they are at the same distance during the whole chase.
Now this opens up more questions, why didn't the FO use hyperspace and send some ships to cutt off the Resistance fleet? Someone mentioned very short hyperspace jumps might not be possible, well then why not make 2 not very short jumps instead, it doesn't make any sense they would chase them for days instead of doing this.
Why didn't the FO track the shuttle used by Finn and Rose? If they can't then why didn't the resistance use that kind of shuttle or at least that one to evacuate personnel?
Why didn't the resistance send fighters to finish them off? And by fighters I mean air superiority fighters and bomber fighters, Yeah I heard the explanation, they couldn't provide cover but that excuse doesn't make any sense either. Did they forget how to make tie bombers or are fighters restricted to the same top speed as well so they couldn't catch up?