SPECULATION Who is the Ancient Fear?

I think that's possible. I have a strong theory Palpatine truly did learn how to cheat death and may return embodying someone like Adam Driver. I think Max Von Sydow will be the current master but Driver overthrows him, then we learn Driver is actually Palpatine reborn in another body or something. It sounds corny in writing but could be very powerful if done right.

 

I see how you feel, but I think the power of Vader's redemption is more important than the actual death of the emperor. The meaning of that Return of the Jedi ending won't necessarily be lost if The Emperor does end up returning in EPVII. But we'll see.

 

Very interesting theory, The REAL Dark Lord of the Sith rises after Sidious is dead. I like the idea of Sidious and Plageuis being pawns in his master plan. (like Saruman was the pawn of Sauron.)

 

Thank you, now if you will all excuse me, I must catch a rebel scum. Talk later Sabalan out.

 

Really hope they don't bring back Palpatine. Love the character, but he had a great run and especially ending. I can't quote the above poster because Im on my iPhone, but the Sauron-type villain is what my source tell me is to be expected. This villain has been pulling the strings all along through Palpatine. He is voiced by Max Von Sydow and will not be revealed until the end of Episode 7. His reemergence in the galaxy has something to do with Luke's disappearance, but the person I spoke to still did not know if it was Luke being captured or if he went into hiding, or a combination.

 

This scenario is getting better by the minute. The main villain ( maybe Ruin) not appearing until the end of Episode7? Cool!

 

Most of our speculations revolve around the "rumors" we know thus far.
What if JJ twists Lucas' treatments of the new trilogy off the tangent.

- What if the "ancient evil" is an alien race lost in time resurfacing to deal the galaxy
a fatal blow while JEDI go vs. SITH & Empire (inspiration from Yuuzhan Vong?)
- Or the "evil" is the force ghosts within ruins of ancient Sith world,
who possess force sensitives and seed their schemes to unsuspecting reforming republic.

 

Max Von Sydow will be playing the ghost of one of the Sith Lords burried in the Valley of the Dark Lords.

 

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I wonder if the emperor had children. When we first see him in episode 1 he's like 50ish. I mean he wasn't always ugly. He had to of had a life before politics. Why not have is own son step into his place. Never saw that coming.

 

This idea of what "the ancient fear" might/could be is probably one of the most intriguing ideas behind VII. This site had AN OUTSTANDING post about Plagueis being the Sith Lord behind EVERYTHING. It had me convinced and I think the writer was on to something on who or what IS the main threat of the new trilogy.

My wife is a teacher with a major in English (obviously...I do not.) and is very knowledgeable in the ways of traditional storytelling. Lucas built Star Wars around traditional storytelling and I don't think the ST will stray that far from it. I asked her...with knowing Lucas keeps Star Wars in traditional storytelling...where could the story go post ROTJ? After we watched the film, she couldn't really think of anything. Then I showed her the Plagueis article. She thought the post was totally on the right track and it would make sense for the new antagonist to have always been there because the threat needs to shake the main characters to it's core. She didn't give me any specific examples of why she thought that, but... That makes a ton of sense. Here's why:

A bunch of Inquisitors/Jedi Hunters/Sith wannabes IMO are NOT a strong antagonist by themselves. Luke could possibly handle most of them with help and this might be the main story of VII. BUT...It would mean more if they were being controlled by an ancient evil that has been lurking in the shadows waiting for the right time to strike against the Jedi. With all the rumors of Darth Ruin, Luke compromising (whatever that means) and Lucas bringing the story BACK to the beginning with the Sith Vs Jedi...it certainly seems that there is going to be the "Man behind the curtain" moment. When there is smoke...there is fire. ( A Cliche line, but...it's true. )

I also don't think it's Palpatine. That seems too lazy of writing IMO.

 

Yeah, I don't understand why the whole Chosen One prophecy would be brought into the story if all Anakin did was defeat the Sith for a weekend. They need to be done and gone or at least gone for more than 30 years. I'm all for more exploration of things surrounding the Sith but not more Sith. The alleged thread through the ST treatments is moral abiguity and the Sith are anything but. I'm really looking for something more interesting and pretty much expecting to not be disappointed.

 

For the Prequels the Sith were long time gone...this is why the prophecy was directed to Anakin...The Chosen One could be a thing of the force itself which helped the Sith at this time to succeed in their quest because the force was in unbalance....

The ancient fear sounds like a return of someone or something powerful and known...

I think that Episode 7-9 will show us the aftermatch of the fullfillment of the prophecy...

A Force War?

 

IF there is any truth to the "Ancient Fear"-subtitle-rumours that have been flying around for over a year, I feel inclined to join with Dr.WhoCares, Sabalan and others that have been suggesting a millennia-old "true Sith"-like figure emerging from hiding. That being said, I'm not actually very fond of the idea, I just think that it's the most realistic.
Personally, I fear that after you introduce a new villain and claim "He's ten times as dangerous as Palpatine ever was and has been arranging events behind the scenes for centuries", there is nowhere to go afterwards and you make everything that has transpired before have less meaning.
A galaxy-invading race of evil aliens (as suggested by Ben_Kenobi) on the other hand really doesn't sound very "Star-Wars-y" to me. Inter-species war is something better suited for certain other SciFi-franchises, but not for Star Wars (and I considered it a big mistake when the EU introduced the Vong-species). Therefore, I don't think this is what the "Ancient Fear"-subtitle is referring to.
What I personally hope for is a new villain that is not supposed to out-evil Palpatine and Vader, but one that poses a stronger personal challenge to the heroes. Of course, he needs enough military and political power to be considered a galaxy-wide threat, but if the danger he poses to our heroes was more on a psychological/emotional level, he'd make for an interesting opponent without moving into spectacle-creep territory.

 

Same thought. Darth Ruin is the one Sith that got banished or waits and is the one Sith that wants to destroy the galaxy and not rule it like Sidious. Nice idea...