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Why I think The Force Awakens' soundtrack deserved Oscar

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Colonel Settars, Feb 19, 2016.

  1. Colonel Settars

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    It’s really delightful that John Williams’ the Force Awakens score won 3 awards from The International Film Music Associations, including the biggest award, Soundtrack of the Year.

    With respect to Maestro Ennio Morricone, who (though hard to believe) never won a competitive Oscar, and regarded by many critics that this will be his year.

    However, I still side with John Williams’s score for the seventh installment of the franchise we love and growing up with, and hope to see it won the maestro his sixth Oscar.

    How come?

    Firstly, I was not impressed with the score I heard on December 16th last year, though it’s better than most, but apart from the astonishing Rey’s theme and mesmerizing Jedi steps and Finale, I thought that other tracks lost something unique or probably some epicness (I was wrong!)

    I thought it might because the maestro is too old or the soundtrack was not played by the great London Symphony Orchestra that made it lost some magic.

    But yes, I was wrong all along.

    After December 16th the day I watched the film, I repetitively listened to the Force Awakens score, over and over again, track by track, and then I found something I totally missed first time I heard them in the theatre.

    The storytelling of the Force Awakens is so unique.

    It was not composed during the time of Cold war.

    It was not composed in the age of masculine.

    It was composed in the age of Social Media, the age of globalization.

    The age of the new generation who don’t know anything about Star Wars.

    Star Wars, Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader are just a myth for them.

    Their parent’s childhoods are no match to their online fame, PS4 or superheroes films.

    John Williams was succeeded in bringing the myth back to reality. One more time.

    Rey’s theme starts with childish but independent tone and gradually change to the heroin tone that’s totally different from warrior’s tone we heard from the prequel, this one is so complexed and well-composed. It expresses the feeling of youth, dream, waiting, loneliness, sadness but above all, this is a theme for modern heroine in true Star Wars fashion.

    Kylo Ren’s theme is the other side of Rey’s theme. While it show the greatness and powerful of the dark-side villain, on contrary with Rey’s theme, it had some gentleness, weakness and sorrow hidden inside. It suited very well with the nature of Kylo Ren’s character unlike some bombarded scores from the prequel which (though I love them) are somehow irrelevant and have nothing to do with character’s development.

    The medley between Kylo and Rey’s theme could be heard in track ‘The Abduction’ and it’s incredibly well-composed with mixed emotions and stories. Something John Williams knew, but we not.

    Some other ‘new’ tracks are also exceptional, if you don’t judged them the first time you heard.

    ‘I can fly anything’ : This track is so epic with the TIE fighter scene. You can hear what could possibly be a glimpse of ‘The Force Order’ theme at the beginning and it change to a new hero theme which could be used again as Poe or Finn’s theme. This track is remind me of the Trade Federation and The Republic’s theme, it also could be used as the New Republic theme because Poe was a pilot in its army.

    ‘Rey meets BB-8’ : This track represent a very cute relationship between Human and droid which show us the nature of Rey’s character, especially the soft side without saying a word. It’s like a lonely girl meet her who would later become her best friend. It’s a true friendship.

    ‘Finn’s Confession’: This track, you must listened with attention, you will hear what could be a first glimpse of a new love theme or Finn’s theme which is so beautiful piece.

    ‘The Starkiller’: Probably the most underrated track. It remind me of the track when Anakin was burned, no moment both Obi-wan and Anakin realized that they were betrayed by their most trusted friend. Like The New Republic never thought that the First Order would start the pre-emptive attack that spark a new war.

    ‘March of the Resistance’ To be honest, I didn’t like this track the first time I heard, but after I listened to it more than 20 times. I suddenly realized that this is not a Rebel Alliance theme, it’s more complexed, it sound like a military theme more than a good-side theme. It might due to the status of the Resistance is different from the Rebel Alliance. It is more an independent armed force that was repelled from the capitol because the government feared that one day the resistance might rebelled and take power from them.

    ‘Scherzo for X-wings’ = this track made me silly think that Poe is a skywalker.

    ‘Farewell and the Trip’ = this is my most favorite score out of the soundtrack, it told us that the new journey has begun, once again, the Star Wars saga has successfully re-established.

    Han and the Princess theme in this track is so heartbreaking, but it is a part of Rey’s theme at the end, when Rey and Chewie travelled to Arch-To that’s so impressive.

    It’s told us that the force has been awaken and now it will guide our new Jedi to her Master. A journey she knows that someday must happen, and she accepted her destiny with confidence, a true heroine without sexy outfit or body.

    Rey’s a new definition of modern-day heroine. A new form of Disney’s princess.

    A Jedi for the 21th century.

    The Last track is everyone’s favorite ‘The Jedi Steps and Finale’

    This track captured the overall storytelling and theme of the Force Awakens, a story about a girl who growing up denying her faith, but gradually accepted her destiny after realize her importance. The track starts with tone of the myth, filled with doubtful in Rey and audiences’ minds. And when the hood figure appeared, the track serve the scene very well, he is there, gazing at the emptiness of the ocean. The legendary Luke Skywalker we have been waiting for 30 years.

    Then the force theme played along with the closed up at the two facial expression. Rey’s reluctance slowly change to confident, but Luke’s expression is different.

    He knew the girl, he always knew who she is. But the appearance of the girl reminded him of pain from the past. The sorrow he deal with alone for a longtime, you could heard his sorrow from the note before it change to Star Wars main title.

    The Force Awakens served the film very well. It is the most complexed Star Wars’s soundtrack to date. To compare it with the war anthem in the prequel and the freshness of the original is unfair. This is a new trilogy and it need a new theme and storytelling.

    That’s why I think John Williams deserved his sixth Oscar late this February, with highly respect to the great and only one Maestro Morricone who should have won a longtime ago.

    Sorry for my unnatural English, I’m not a native speaker, but I’ve tried my best to deliver my feeling toward the score through foreign languages. Thanks for reading.
     
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    I think so,, I loved most of the track myself!
     
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    you make some great observations on the score here. i listen to it all day!

    "The Starkiller" is most often my favorite piece (other days/moments it's something else ~ ha), so hopefully it's not too underrated.

    you mention that it echoes a sentiment of betrayal and that's the sense i get of it too. there's also an interesting bitterness there too: it's Hux's moment of triumph and as we watch Ren's masked face tracking the streaks across the Finalizer, we can only guess what he's thinking.
    1. he hates Hux for making him feel small / for one-upping him.
    2. he didn't want Starkiller fired and is helpless to see it do its deadly business.
    3. he's bracing himself for the probable unpleasantness of having to feel all those people die.
    4. for all he knows his mother is somewhere in the Hosnian system.
    of course we don't really know any of this when it happens (or are maybe not thinking about it). it's only after seeing the whole film that i started questioning this scene. because before knowing Kylo Ren's whole arc, up to this point he's just been--to use Rey's words--"a creature in a mask."

    the music in this scene (to get back to the point) scores the tragedy of what's about to happen, but also, for me, suggests that all the players watching this happen (aside from Hux and his FO legion) recognize the magnitude of the loss.
     
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    It does deserve it, truly beautiful music.
     
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    Hey Colonel Settars....This thread is a HIT with 3 men on base.Maybe it can be the THREAD OF THE WEEK...;).
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    No one will remember the musical themes from the Hateful eight in 20 years time or so, but everyone will be able to recognize Rey's and Kylo Ren's theme. In the end Williams always wins. The fact that I was waiting at a station two months ago because my train was delayed and suddenly the official railway orchestra showed up at the station to perform the most famous and also less famous themes from John Williams says enough. With this man we can finally get rid of antisemitic Wagner.
     
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    While I'm glad to see Morricone finally getting Oscar consideration, The Force Awakens is the better score and deserves the win. However, I think the possible backlash of Williams winning almost out-weighs the positives. The overall verdict on the score in the public's eye is finally improving and we don't need the likes of Tarantino or the dreaded and inevitable Internet "OVERRATED!!!1" crowd raising muck and dragging the score's reputation down.
     
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    It's a great soundtrack. I would've given it the Oscar. But, look on the plus side, these days, if you win an Oscar, it's almost like saying, you didn't deserve it. So maybe not winning is winning in this case.
     
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    Amazing analysis. Agree.
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 24, 2016, Original Post Date: Feb 24, 2016 ---
    Come on, it's just like when ESB lost to Fame on 1981 and I guess not a lot of people nowadays remember the music of Fame as much as we love the tracks of the Empire Strikes Back soundtrack - they have become a classic on our culture. Come on, it's "The Imperial March" and "Han Solo and The Princess"! So I guess you are correct.
     
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    Would love to see John Williams win, but he's always a winner in my mind no matter what.

    I will never tire of his incredible music.

    Ennio Morricone is amazing in his own right.

    I do highly recommend Yo-Yo Ma Plays Ennio Morricone.


    It's funny (or perhaps pathetic), thinking so much about Darth Plagueis his possible link with Snoke lately, that when you mentioned the Fame soundtrack, I was like, "Oh, that's right: that could even be a Plagueis theme song":

    LOL.

    A Star Wars musical could be fun (or just plain funny), complete with an Ewok finale.

    (ewok)(ewok)(ewok)(ewok)(ewok)

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    John Williams deserves it more, but Im pretty sure they will give to Morricone for his previous works (definitely not for Hateful Eight), as he dosen't have an oscar yet, only a honorany one.
     
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    this is mostly pretty stupid, but Palpatine singing to Anakin at the 3:30 mark made me laugh out loud.
     
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    Now that was priceless! :D

    Thanks for the laughs!

    JediMasterRobert
     
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    Bwahahahaha LOL.
     
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