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SPECULATION Why Rey is the real chosen one

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Bandini, Feb 2, 2016.

  1. Rey24B

    Rey24B Rebel General

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    I don't know that they will go there again. It wasn't particularly well-received the first time around. I think it more likely that she'll be like Luke in the OT. Very important and with a "destiny," but not a flat-out "Space Messiah." And honestly, I personally don't want them to go there again.

    And I could see Finn, Rey, Poe, etc potentially being the main protagonists of a potential Episode X-XII. One of the reasons for the whole "passing the torch" idea now is, that id took so long for the ST to finally get made. But if Disney waits, even like ten years, well then you've got a Daisy Ridley and John Boyega who'd be in their mid-30's and an Oscar Isaac who'd be in his mid-40's. You could center around them again, with them being older, wiser, and more experienced and having to face new challenges. Also, they kind of have to share the spotlight with the OT characters right now (for example, the Big Three of TFA essentially being Rey, Finn, and Han Solo, and Luke being set up for an important role moving forward). So a potential SST would perhaps be their chance to shine purely on their own.

    Plus, they're really popular characters already, so I could see Disney wanting to do more with them in general. But of course, this is all hypothetical at this point.
     
  2. Bandini

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    My point is not to agree or disagree because this Star Wars area is for newcomers and young people. And if I had a story telling company, this is what I will do.

    Nobody will care in 10 years from now, even us will have 6 movies to talk about and well, there will be cartoons for the old stuff but Disney's priority is to build characters for the future not live in the past.
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    She's already a space Messiah ... She's good at everything.
     
  3. Rey24B

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    Not really. And that's not what "messiah" means anyway.
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    Anakin brought balance by destroying the Sith, you don't need to change that. But, a new non-Sith threat came along and threw it out of balance again. You have the best of both worlds there. Also Yoda's line about a "prophecy being misinterpreted" and all that.
     
  4. Bandini

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    Messiah means the chosen one.

    We'll talk about that in 10 years :p
     
  5. Rey24B

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    You presume that Daisy Ridley would WANT to do ten more SW films. She seems to be enjoying herself, and she might very well be up for more after Episode IX (we'll see), but that's a lot of films to play the same character. Actors do like to try new things you know.
     
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    It isn't just being called "Sith" that causes imbalance. It's actively spreading evil.
    Anakin brought balance by destroying the Sith as they were the beings in the galaxy causing despair and oppression. Suffering. Imbalance.
    If another Dark Side existed at the time that was actively doing evil (which is what these folk do) then the balance couldn't be restored.
    My view is that Snoke was badly injured during this time and thus was not actively doing evil. Only after balance was restored is he forced to emerge to replenish the dark side by unbalancing the Force - thus empowering himself once more.

    Anyway, my response was against the idea that Anakin didn't bring balance - which is what people are suggesting and the reason why Rey is actually the chosen one.

    ps.s Yoda said the prophesy could have been misread as it looked at the time that Anakin could fail in his destiny. Which he did. But then it turned out to be right when he eventually destroyed the Sith.
     
  7. Bandini

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    You have to admit that killing half of the universe to fullfill a prophecy is a weird way to do it.
     
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    He fulfilled the prophesy in spite of that.
     
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    Who wouldn't do that ? She's young and it's the chance of her life ? She did nothing else.

    Ask young actors ? Would you be the face of the Force for 20 years with the fame and salary according to that ? Don't expect much no ...

    Do you think any of the 6 people in Friends have any regret to be a part of this show for ten years ?
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    From a certain point of view. If someone brings peace to Earth by killing everyone, should we call him a man of peace ?
     
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    I can see that happening among some newer fans who might not know about the earlier films or care enough to re-watch them from the beginning, whether they chronologically begin with the Prequels or start with the Original Trilogy. I think most future fans will at least be curious as to the past.

    As for me, I consider the "Lucas Era" the Golden Age of Star Wars. Objectively speaking, simply in terms of precedence and Star Wars being, when it appeared, an unprecedented kind of film: nothing new in the Star Wars franchise will ever be able to surpass the initial excitement, cinematic innovations, and influence of Episode IV: A New Hope because it was the first Star Wars film that sent all of these ideas we discuss into motion.

    A New Hope
    marks, in our world, the introduction of the concept of the Force, the first time we ever learn of Jedi, see a lightsaber, witness Vader, board the Millennium Falcon and watch it jump to hyperspace, come to comprehend the struggle between the Rebellion and the Empire, and so on. All the core characters who literally define what Star Wars is enter our world through this one pivotal film.

    All the films necessarily support and cross-reference each other. Events in The Force Awakens and the next two episodes (VIII and IX) cannot exist without the historical backing of the Original Trilogy. Remove Leia, Luke, Han, Obi-Wan, Yoda, R2-D2, or any other major Original Trilogy (or even Prequel Trilogy) character, and something integral breaks in the overall Star Wars saga.

    Each of those characters influenced matters in vital ways. Yes, they each "pass on" at some point, but they cannot be overlooked, forgotten, or retroactively minimized in the mere presence of new characters without us missing out on some essential history of Star Wars.

    There is great truth in that people might not care much about the past: consider how many people bother to learn much about Earth's history. And this is why mistakes and suffering get perpetuated in history, because so few people care enough to learn it with a view to make for a better future. It happens, but it doesn't have to happen. People could care.

    As I said above...

    To which I would add: Rey's impact on the continuation of Star Wars story can be as important as -- or perhaps even more important than -- Anakin's or Luke's effects in their respective eras. But they all matter, nonetheless. Some day someone might conceivably not know or care who Rey was, but her importance and relevance would remain undiminished.

    Rey could be easily revealed to be one of many Chosen Ones, and they all would have made the greatest difference to their generation and future generations.

    Ultimately, everything does transition into mythology in the Star Wars galaxy.

    This is why each film is looking back at the past to tell us a new chapter of a story set "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away."

    Caring about the past and who did what is actually central to the Star Wars cinematic experience.

    JediMasterRobert
     
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    The prophecy said he would bring balance to the force. The key word is balance not peace. The state of the galaxy in episode VII is way more balanced then it was in the OT. the First Order does not have even a fraction of the power the Empire had. The New Republic does not even hide their support of the Resistance because they aren't threatened by Snuggles like they were by Palpatine. The good guys and the bad guys are on an equal playing field.
     
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    Balance is peace. But this is not the point. My point is that Disney is taking charge of Star Wars and I don't think they plan to stick a long time in the Lucas dreams.
     
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