Why we can not understand those beeps from BB-8 and R2-D2???

Agreed.

In a vast Galaxy theres plenty of languages, even accents, going around, not only from different species but from within the same species. So is a good question to wonder how they understand each other? If the characters actually understand themselves by knowledge or by technology why can't we the viewers understand them also?

I've always considered that the viewer should get the same experience that the character he is seing, for a better understanding of the movie. So if someone can understand R2 and Chewie why not we understand them also?

Again we're facing "Star Wars consistency issues", there some droids we understand but others don't, we understand all the humanoid people not matter were they came from and we understand some of the alien species but not all. WEIRD

My guess would be to understand everything, they could use a technological gadget for that, that would make the movies much more interesting for all of the viewers, just imagine fully understand the conversations betwen 3PO and R2 or Han and Chewie, wouldn't that make the movies better for you?

A Bit of SCience over this question....

A couple of years ago the scientists in SETI went on a search study over the languages on Planet Earth, already understanding that Dolphins and Orcas had a huge language range, but the surprise came when they realise that Crows and Ravens have an extremly complex language. Actually the Crows conversation curve is more likelly the human curve than the Dolphins curve.

Several studies have follow over this and we now can precise even different accents in the Crows language. Plenty Universities studied the language of Crows and the propagation of the Information betwen the Crows communities and even betwen different communities. To me the biggest surprise came from discovering that the crows give us, persons, diferent names (it's just mindblowing).

SETI establish that mankind CAN'T engage a conversation with an Alien species, no matter what, until we could understand what Ravens are saying.

For those ceptic about the Crows capabilities just consider Crows today are much smarter and advanced than the Australopithecus back in the day, remember that Crows: can built houses, can built and use several tools, have an advanced language and live in big social groups.

Just one final request from this SW Fan, In SW Episode VIII we could have a Raven as a character (easy CGI) just to shut up all those science geeks trashing SW (like Tyson deGrasse).

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Actually US Army is using Crows to find injuried soldiers in the field, they show pictures of missing personnel to Crows and they find them in the field. There was also a big rumour over the use of Crows in the search for Bin Laden but the Army just answered that was classified.

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Me

 

Are you talking about wanting s literal earthly BIRD as a character or Darth Revan ?

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I think you mean "Holy Bantha" .

 

The actuall Bird (please chech my Edit to the original post and you will understand why)

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I've always thought the "Octopus" would iinherit the Earth.

Just think about it, in a case of a major failure hapening in our planet, one that kills the entire mankind (99% of all Earth Lifeforms are extinct, it's not a question of might happening but when it will happen), the Octopus will have major advantages over the remaining creatures; they are very smart, they do have dextery to create and use tools, and they already have the ability to walk and breed out of water, BUT because they're marine creatures the language is a major problem, also they don't live in social groups because they are cannibalistic and they have an extreme short life spam (1-3 years).

But in the last years the Crows and Ravens take the lead by far, and in a case of bad things happening they might be small enough to survive, big creatures die first after accidents, remember that all mammals in the world came from little mice forms, and they also have an amazing ability to find food, they can eat almost everything even dead meat.

One big Scientist stated that advanced life will never occur under water because they can't control FIRE underwater, that's why Dolphins and Kiler Whales are limited in the things they can do, they can't have clothes or tools, and therefore will never advance beyond a certain point, but animals on land could achieve almost everything, think the next step for Crow evolution should be the discovery and use of Fire, or the Wheel but they can fly and have 3 hands so the wheel is not that needed. And we share the same places and can't understand a single word that they are saying.

 

Hmmm...maybe they could further incorporate the use of those metal birds on Jakku as sw's "Crows" ?

 

Old news maybe, but for all of us who have difficulty getting a handle on the R model Astromech Mono-tone maybe this Basic-to-Astromech R2D2 Translator will help.

 

I do find it interesting and rather artful, if not brilliant how the various languages and selective translations were handled across the Star Wars saga.

Early on, in the Original Trilogy, we are introduced to Jawas and Sandpeople / Tusken Raiders, and I found the lack of subtitles there somehow to make sense and help establish the otherworldliness of that world just as Greedo's extended conversation (with subtitles) with Han Solo also made sense.

Jabba the Hutt and Bib Fortuna really required subtitles for their extended interactions, and yet, despite their prolonged presence and substantial intervention in Return of the Jedi, the Ewoks did not need them at all.

Wampas, Tauntauns, Gamorrean Guards, Salacious Crumb,and Ugnaughts also did well without them.

BB-8, having more agility that R2-D2, lends itself to being more expressive in terms of body language, but I also felt R2-D2, despite his more rigid setup, was also (thanks to the actor and crew) able to convey ideas which C-3PO often helped to define or complete through his reactions to R2's statements.

Chewbacca was an exceptional case in this regard in all of the movies he was featured in. He was especially expressive during The Empire Strikes Back and The Force Awakens, and I felt he never needed subtitles. In fact it was sort of a highlight for Han Solo to be able to understand the Wookie language (Shyriiwook).

I could also see subtitles sometimes undercutting the potential of what we might think or feel the character is expressing, although much of the time the emotions are unmistakeable (e.g. Chewy's sadness or an Ewok's curiosity).

One thing I had wondered about was, in showings of Star Wars movies around the world, if there were ever additional subtitles for such character interactions which did not appear in the original U.S. release.

So glad am I, however, speak so understandably Yoda did. Such a difference made it has.

JediMasterRobert

 

Ah, thank you for reminding me there was actually a poll above this thread!

Voted No have I.

JediMasterRobert

 

Did you wish some subtitles in the movie from beeps from BB-8 and R2-D2???
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1. 
   Yes...It will be GREAT and BETTER.
   2 vote(s)
   8.3%
2. *
   No....It will NOT be GREAT and BETTER.
   22 vote(s)
   91.7%

This actually sounds like another SPECIAL EDITION type of idea. Don't go giving George any of your ideas ....

 

Some humanoids (such as Bill Hader) have mastered the difficult art of Tauntaun phrasing...

An oldy but a goody.

 

Well, I must thank you for posting that!

The impressions were very entertaining and convincing!

JediMasterRobert

 

Funny enough, unless GL signed away his directors rights, Disney can't do anything to the prequels without his consent unless they fire him off of those .

 

Han understands Shyriiwook.... It's not shown if he can speak it.

And all the Star Wars films would lose their G ratings if they subtitled R2-D2:

 

Too late. Called George and gave him an idea. He said, "Doesn't matter. Disney won't let me."

 

I'm actually chuckling at myself right now as I re-read this. Thank you for catching that.

Of course I should have written that as understand the Wookie language. I corrected my post.

That could be rather impressive (although slightly disturbing and oddly humorous) to walk in on Han Solo during such a native conversation with Chewbacca. Glad they never actually tried that though in the films.

Yoda understood them as well. And that fun little line there: "Good relations with the Wookiees I have."

JediMasterRobert