SPECULATION Will Finn be The Last Jedi at the end of the Trilogy

See thats a bad argument. Just because its star wars doesn't mean common sense doesn't apply. The resistence is still a military organization, moving a pilot is by far your best out of the co-pit makes zero sense and has to make us question Leia's leadership.

Giving Han and Lando rank didn't take them out position they were best at. Lando was flying the Falcon vs the Death Star, Han was the only volunteer to take down the shield.

So yes

 

I voted no chance because Finn didn't use the force in TFA to be considered being the last jedi, that's Rey's role, he'll play the outstanding resistance fighter till the end.

 

So yeah, why I called it "silly logic." Just saying there's precedence in the new canon, is all.

 

so ones person did something something stupid, the second person to do it is now less stupid?

 

Obviously not what I said at all. Again, let me repeat now for the 3rd time- "silly logic". A phrase that could also apply to purposefully misrepresenting other people's opinions in what could otherwise be a respectful discussion, but that's beside the point.

I'm merely that it's been done before.

 

I think Finn has a fair shot at becoming a Jedi. Think about this (This is just a loose thought that I am forging while typing this, so yeah ).

Kylo Ren, being a crazy fanatic of the dark side, murdered his father in cold blood in an attempt to complete his journey to the dark side, to strengthen him. Now, this does not happen as far as I can tell, since he was brought down by a scavenger who has no idea how to use a lightsaber ( remember, Rey, using a staff, most likely relied on the staff's weight to put force into each swing. Energy, however, has no weight, and as far as I know, energy makes up the blade of the lightsaber, so when using a lightsaber, you only feel the weight of the hilt, so the force and momentum put into each swing are from your effort alone). Given his extremely volatile, vulnerable and brittle mental state, Kylo might end up overthinking just why killing his father didn't free him from the pull towards the light, and could drive himself down into a depression, eventually possibly parting from the First Order, and lead the Knights of Ren alone. If this was to actually happen, then we would lose the dark side player (apart from Snoke, who is behind the scenes). This could lead to Snoke looking for a new pupil, and the first person he would turn his attention to would be Rey.

At the start of The Last Jedi, Rey has obviously found Luke, and just having lost Han Solo who practically became her father-figure, may find herself seeing Luke as a mentor, and possibly as family. Luke, on the other hand, from the recent interviews with Mark Hamill and Daisy Ridley, seems to not be too keen on the idea of welcoming this nobody who turned up with his lightsaber. Snoke could very well exploit that. He would torment her mentally, in an effort so that Rey may succumb to her feelings of longing for a family and jealousy, and use her feelings to turn her to the dark side. Rey's fall to the dark side could further be accelerated by Luke's apparent scepticism toward the Jedi way (Rey, not having too much knowledge on the Light/Dark side philosophies, would equate Luke's scepticism and possibly disdain towards the Jedi to disdain towards the light side as a whole). In the end, Rey could be the tool that Snoke would use to fill the void in his order's power structure due to Kylo's absence.

This turn of events, in turn, could lead Finn to have to become a Jedi. Remember, Obi Wan told us that the force is around us. it penetrates us ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), binds us altogether, and the way that description sounds to me is anyone has the ability to become a Jedi, to wake up this power that resides in all of us, but one needs to put in effort to unlock this power, and that could be Finn. He could become a Jedi in order to fight Snoke, and his control over Rey, and to bring back Rey to the light side, as we see he has feelings towards Rey (how deep they go is for us to see).

So, this is my 2 am thought put into a 3 paragraph theory. i'm sorry if it's all over the place, but as I said, it is 2 am, and I just came up with this theory now.

 

This is just wierd. Great pilots can also become great commanders. Her experience with and trust in Poe leaves her to think he has qualities as a leader that go beyond piloting.

Your decrying it as faulty logic assumes that there is no backstory information or subtext to the GFFA that warrants Poe being a leader Leia wants to see take over.

 

It's a one hour video, at least specify the exact time when the interesting part starts.

 

I watched it (I didn't know the video started right on time).
It seems to me that the woman gave the answer she saw fit to an accusatory question. The man wanted to know why the TFA promotional material basically misdirected fans into thinking that Finn will be the jedi of the movie. A very direct and fair question, I was convinced he was a jedi too. And of course, she couldn't admit that they straight up lied to the fans (they never do), so she deflected with another question and a loooong drawn out commentary to which the man had no immediate answer to. That's a sneaky way to confuse and effectively shut off someone who is calling you out. She starts rambling about how there are levels of force sensitivity and how someone even said that Obi-Wan wasn't strong with the force. Yeah, as if we didn't see that he was, right from the start. All she does is defend a lie (the advertising portraying Finn as a jedi) by saying that there might be some truth to it after all. I would say that she has no idea if Finn is force sensitive, but given how hard she's working to counter the point made by the man (even though he's not saying anything back), I'd say that she suspects he isn't. Again, I'm not sure that he isn't, but I see no proof that he is/might be.

 

You mean the MTV one where she thinks may be everyone has a little force sensitivity in them?

 

At what time?

 

He makes some great points. Finn's story IS similar to Luke's story. And it's also similar to Han's story. And the same is the case for Rey. What do Rey, Han, Luke and Finn all have in common? They're reluctant heroes. People with humble origins who are forced into situations which reveal their greatness. Of course Finn is on a hero journey, but he doesn't need the force to be one. And that was just my point in my first post.

 

I could only see Finn possibly becoming a Jedi if(big if) he continues not making a choice on which side he will join. There are also many variables against him becoming one too. But the mere fact that Rey is touted and shown to actually be force sensitive to the point of Maz telling her she's the next ONE in so many words then Finn is not gonna be the last Jedi. Unless Rey and Luke dies which isn't gonna happen.

 

Yeah, no. I do not agree with what the person in that video has said. I honestly don't see Finn and Kylo working together to bring back Rey if she is to go down the dark path. Remember, Finn outright hates Kylo, as he is one of the higher ranking members in the First Order, the very organisation that has taken Finn away from his parents, denied him from ever seeing his family. Not only that, but Kylo also most likely left an impression of a cold-blooded killer on Finn after he murdered Han Solo seemingly with no regrets whatsoever, even mocking his own father's death later on saying 'It's just us now, Han Solo can't save you'. After witnessing all that, i do not think that Finn would team up with Kylo Ren, no matter how much Kylo would try to convince him about his turn to the light.

 

Great video by this guy.