SPECULATION OFFICIAL Rey Discussion Thread

Its new news to me..

 

Yup it's the same video from the Japanese interviews with Daisy. She keeps dropping the "I'm SOLITARY as in SOLO" hint. It could be a ruse. Either it's not THE big secret of the movie... we might find out a third of the way through the movie that she's a Solo, or if she's dropping not so subtle hints this soon, it won't be a secret at all by the time the movie is released. BUT there is the chance she's teasing us and she isn't a Solo/Skywalker.

 

I just happen to think about this when I was cutting the grass this afternoon: How exactly does this "Force runs strong in my family" work? I mean if Anakin was conceived by the Force and he passed it to his children, then how? Through his genes? It could be through his blood, but then how would Rey have it if Han Solo is her father? Strange things you think of when sweating out in 90 degree weather!

 

Uhm... Well if Han is her father then we are presuming Leia is her mother... so she is/might be the the granddaughter of Anakin..... much confusion I sense in you... maybe its the heat lol

 

I'm not sure what you mean, are you completely missing the part where Leia is supposed to be her mother?

 

Anakin + Padmé = offspring (Luke & Leia)
Leia + Han = offspring

 

Funny how that whole reproduction thing happens... whacky.

I think the force must in some ways choose who gets to be a force user... the Midichlorians are possible a marker of force aptitude rather than what gives you the powers. I think once someone has that aptitude it can be passed down genetically, this is possibly be why Jedi were to refrain from having children or families, could cause problems between the haves and have nots... force dynasties as it were.

The Skywalkers aren't really supposed to exist. Anakin wasn't supposed to have kids or grandkids.

 

I like your view on midichlorians, I never understood why people where so upset with them. In my opinion they don't take away from the mythical aspect of the force, they are just a physical manifestation of it. What I mean is you have a high midichlorian count "because" you have a strong connection to the force and not the other way around.

 

I had more of an issue with the "virgin birth" of Anakin. That was super hokey. I would of settled for Anakin coming from humble beginnings, from parents who were poor and had no apparent force abilities. But the "I don't know how I became pregnant, he was a gift." blechhhh... cheeseball.

 

Rey is gonna be like Ripley of Alien. She gonna be bad ass. Get away from Finn you b****! I mean bro.

 

But that goes back to the whole Plagueis idea... that he created life /virgin birth... etc... I dunno... Plaggy starting the whole skywalker clan and it backfiring could be the big bombshell...

 

boy meets girl
boy and girl have sex
girl has baby

so . . .

Han meets Leia (episodes 4-6)
Han and Leia have sex (not covered in the movies, but lots of homemade movies available of a decent google search)
Leia has Rey

Well said Pomo!

Never understood the aggravation with the concept and I think you have definitely have a good, positive understanding of it.

 

Thanks for clearing that up for me! I think my confusion was if the Force was transferred through the Skywalker bloodline. Given the fact that Anakin had such a high Midichlorian count in his blood cells, I thought this is how the Force was transferred; i.e. the blood of the father is passed to the children. So, if that was the case, Han's blood would be passed to Rey, not Leia's.

 

Huh . . . I can't think of a context where what you are talking about is true. Biologically speaking any child's blood is genetically determined by both parents. In royal terms if a queen marries and has a child it is heir to the throne because of the connection to here. If you mean family name that has little connection to blood.

 

Blood isn't a factor in reproduction. Genes/DNA are combined. Midichlorians are just markers that indicate force abilities. They don't give you power and are not transferred.

It's not just blood. Every cell in your body has DNA which is the genetic material that was determined by BOTH parents. Some genes are recessive some are dominant.

 

Okay, lets see if we can all get on the same page and leave out the intricacies of genetics in a galaxy far, far away for the most part.

The higher levels of midichlorians you have the more force sensitive are
Anakin having midichlorians was an anomally.
Once Anakin had them, there was the possibility that his children could receive high levels of them as well.
Leia has them, as Anakin's offspring.
Leia's children could have them at elevated levels as well.

Its not really genetic. That is putting to much of scientific spin on this. Saying all children of Jedi will have them is far too calculable. Midichlorians and the Force are intended to be far more mystical than that. Midichlorians exist in everyone, just at different levels. Normal people have low levels, force sensitive people have higher levels. It isnt really a dominant v. recessive gene, blood type, etc. issue that is predictable, or even probable.

Midichlorians exist in all cells and act symbiotically with all living things, which are of course comprised of cells. I think of midichlorians (and the Force) as a a collective consciousness of all living things (cells) that allows a Force sensitive to "feel" the world around them.

 

The only reason I continued to speak about genetics was someone apparently felt that only fathers counted in "bloodline."

 

I disagree. What would make it run in a family if it had no genetic basis? It seems pretty similar to height. Two tall people tend to have taller kids, but not always. Everyone has some degree of tallness, some stand out compared to their relatives, but it is still clearly an inherited trait.

If it weren't genetic, why wouldn't it be randomly distributed? Or shared as much among friends or people living in high populations...etc. If the strongest indicator is family, then its genetic, at least to some degree.