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Did the director of Black Panther explain what he wanted to put in his movie ?

 

You mean the fact that a person likes to talk about their art somehow diminishes it? Some artists talk about their creations more extensively and some do it less. Using this (flawed) logic Hitchcock was mediocre at best because he enjoyed talking about his films.

 

It is not that common ...

 

Then it is something to be cherished, not criticized.

 

No offense but this is his job, telling a story on screen so that people can undestand what is going on without justifications or explanations. That's the point of being a director and a writer.

You do that in DVD bonus not on daily basis after the movie is out.

I didn't say it was good or bad, I said it was weird and you will agree that Black Panther's director didn't feel the need to explain his art.

 

Rian Johnson has done this with every film he's made. He even participated in a forum on his website discussing the films he had made. The Last Jedi doesn't need any explanation, but I'm happy he's willing to discuss the film with fans.

 

It's fairly common for directors of Star Wars movies....

 

Glad to know.

 

Better than "I fell off the face of the earth" Gareth Edwards

 

Great artists don't tend to talk about their art. Art, by definition, has more than one interpretation and if the artist is telling you his, it discourages the audience from coming up with theirs. That RJ and Disney insists on making RJ himself the story and justifying his work and his thoughts on it, pretty much tells you they know he made a bad movie, and are simply in damage control mode.

 

I'd agree if thathad been the issue here. I've listened to most of, if not all of his post-premiere interviews and it's not like he says anything that completely alters the interpretation of the film or renders it pointless. The closest thing to that is his focus on the fact that the theme of the film is not "letting the past die" but learning from it instead, which is clearly the right choice unless you only watch the pre-Crait scenes with Kylo and not the whole film. But in this situation do we truly believe that if he told nothing people who disliked TLJ wouldn't use this as an opportunity to say that he hides his head in the sand?

 

You're going to have a difficult time trying to rationalize with someone coming from an irrational position. If a director or an actor doesn't want to discuss the process then I respect that. If RJ wants to talk about his Star Wars film with fans than I support that as well. It's awesome that he answers questions. It's a shame that internet buffoons are trying to ruin it for everyone else.

 

George Lucas, Ridley Scott, Quinton Tarantino, Steven Spielberg, Martin Scorsese, David Lynch, Alfred Hitchcock, James Cameron, Woody Allen, Mel Brooks, Francis Ford Coppola, Judd Apatow, and Ron Howard.

Cheers,
Jayson

 

Point proven. Mine. Great artists don't tend to talk about their art. Keep in mind, i'm referring to their movies, not moviemaking. Every good director will talk your head off about making movies.

Tarantino, in particular, was one of the ones that was adamant about not talking about his art. Ask him what was in the suitcase in Pulp Fiction, he won't answer. Ask him what certain things in his movies mean, he won't answer. The point is for the audience to come up with their interpretations of what was created, which may not even be what the creator had in mind, but work.

But if you want to talk about the process of moviemaking, he'll talk your head off.

The art speaks for itself. Any time the director injects himself into that conversation, it never turns out well. Most are smart enough not to. And then you have Rainy Johnston.

 

This list goes on and on...

Imagine being so mad about a successful/popular movie that you get upset about the director discussing the film. There's nothing Rian Johnson can do to make these curmudgeons happy. I'm just happy Lucasfilm picked him to make The Last Jedi. It was inspired choice and he delivered an amazing movie.

 

Audio commentaries would be pretty boring now would they?

 

I can't agree.

Take even just Lucas.
He has talked at length about why things are in his films as they are.

I can't agree that Lucas is therefore a bad artist.


And then there's Gravity Falls...

Cheers,
Jayson

 

Week 16 for Star Wars: The Last Jedi ended yesterday on Day 112.













Star Wars: The Force Awakens
April 1 (Week 16) - digital download
April 5 (Week 16) - disks

Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
March 24 (Week 15) - digital download
April 4 (Week 16) - disks

Star Wars: The Last Jedi
March 13 (Week 13) - digital download
March 27 (Week 15) - disks

Movie (Release Month) / Multiplier = Gross divided by Opening Weekend
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (December 2015) 3.78
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (December 2016) 3.43
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (December 2017) 2.82 currently
Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (December 2017) 11.15 currently
Black Panther (February 2018) 3.25 currently

This is my last big data update until the movie leaves theaters or the thread gets locked.

 

I was watching part of TFA on TV last night just for funsies and it was amazing how much more of a SW film any random part felt, than TLJ. Just sad that they got Darth Rainy to come in and destroy The Saga. You never hire the guy that wants to destroy everything, because he thinks he can do it better. It never works out well, as the underperformance of TLJ has shown.

In other news... Black Panther is about to do what TLJ couldn't and pass Titanic to become the #3 domestic film of all time.

 

Seems like a good time to lock this thread down. The Last Jedi finishes as a success with audiences, critics, and as the most profitable film of 2017. It beat its opening week projection and it slightly missed its total forecast (according to the Wall Street Journal) with some analysts. Although, analysts conceded it was a difficult film to forecast based on a variety of different factors.

Gotta give the other studios credit for releasing better competition this time around. Both Jumanji and The Greatest Showman were both popular with audiences and made a health profit as well.