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A WIP timeline of events (not final), from ROTJ to TFA

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by MagnarTheGreat, Jan 1, 2016.

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    It would be interesting if Leia being Vader's daughter combined with her wanting a more militaristic Republic leads her political opponents to accuse her of being to Snoke as Palpatine was to Dooku.
     
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    It's late and I'm kind of tired, but let's try shooting this idea down:

    1) The second, female child of Han and Leia is presumed dead in a profound tragedy at a young age.
    2) This has a major effect on the family. Ben has emotional issues and Leia sends him away to also keep him away from Snoke. Han Solo returns to smuggling with Chewbacca. He and Leia still keep in touch.
    3) Ben betrays Luke and kills his apprentices. Han Solo starts keeping his distance from Leia.
    4) Leia starts the Resistance to fight the First Order.

    Under this scenario, Bloodline could have cute Han and Leia moments while at the same time accounting for other events.

    The context of these sentences could be either #1 or #2.

    #1 Han (to Leia): Ben and I had to deal with it in our own way.
    #2 Han (to Leia): You and I had to deal with it in our own way.

    Something will have to wait for Bloodline to hopefully fill out just how long Han has returned to Smuggling. ~6 years or a lot more than that. It seems that Leia starts the Resistance ~6 years before TFA if Bloodline is anything to go by.

    In the novelization, Han seemed ignorant of Snoke and Snoke's effect upon Ben. Why and how was Leia not keeping him in the loop? Where was Han Solo - had he returned to his smuggler's lifestyle?



    http://www.starwarsreport.com/2016/02/19/pablo-hidalgo-interview-swbw-53/
     
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    After the Galactic Civil War, Han's Solo's life took unexpected turns as he became husband to an influential New Republic politician, a family man, and - for a time - a successful racing pilot. But the peace of this life was not to last, and after a profound tragedy upended what had become normal for the Corellian, Solo returned to his old life as a tramp freighter captain, smuggler, and freelance law bender.

    The bolded part is interesting, because we've been assuming the massacre at Luke's academy was fairly recent... So if Han's peaceful life didn't last long, the "profound tragedy" must have been something else...
     
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    it actually just says "last", not "last long".

    he could have still had peace for 23 years before Ben lost his marbles, at which point that peace ended, and therefore did not "last".
     
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    That seems like a forced interpretation to me, frankly. If his life was peaceful for 23 years, it certainly lasted. It's uncommon to use that word for short-lived things.
     
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    So does Bloodline take place after Han and Leia go apart and Ben has become Kylo Ren? Author says she knew about Han and Leia's The Force Awakens status and about Kylo Ren. If the book was before his fall, he would've just been Ben.

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    @MagnarTheGreat

    This is a just a spectacular collection of data that you have brought together.

    Amazing work my friend............... and great discussion
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    Keep up the great work
     
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    not necessarily. a lot of people use Ben and Kylo Ren interchangeably.
    also, she could just be saying she knew Kylo Ren was Han & Leia's son, period. and it has nothing to do with when he turned.

    i know it's tempting to read all sorts of stuff into a 140 word tweet, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, ya know?
     
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    How long's the Millennium Falcon been missing for?

    Pablo Hidalgo: "He's been looking for it for years. That's as much as we know for sure now."



    Rey's Survival Guide: "Great plan until the TIE pilots blew the quad up, forcing us to run for this junky freighter that the Blobfish has kept under a tarp for longer than I can remember."

    [​IMG]

    In the pre-TFA prologue and epilogue for Smuggler's Run, there's people after the Falcon. They think Solo has it after he tells them a long story from the OT era about it, and a fight ensues.

    [​IMG]
     
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    ...3 months later...





    Last time Han saw Maz was

     
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    Star Wars: Bloodline

    The first few chapters - no really big plot spoilers but more of a "where are they now?":

    It takes place at a time when there's been decades of relative peace and the New Republic has held power for more than two decades.
    Leia is a Senator. She wants to quit.
    Han runs a shipping company. Leia thinks he's legit; not smuggling. He is overseeing racing competitions. He is restless and travels a lot.
    Leia and Han are physically apart often but in communication.
    They were married after ROTJ and before Ben's birth.
    Chewbacca lives on Kashyyyk.
    No mention of the Millennium Falcon.
    No mention of Snoke or the First Order.
    Luke is remembered by Leia as fighting in the rancor's den in SW:ROTJ.
    Baby Ben mentioned in flashback/memory form and about his conception/birth.
     
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    I wonder why the Visual Dictionary didn't mention
    Han's shipping company. It just said that he was a racing pilot for a time and then went back to smuggling
     
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    With all of Han's death, his shipping company must have been as reliable as The USPS :p .
     
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    I still don't know or remember about Han Solo's helmet in the Visual Dictionary. Anyone know anything? Is this supposed to be his racing helmet?

    [​IMG]
     
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    that's the helmet Luke used on the Millenium Falcon when training with Obi-Wan (see the blast shield?).
     
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    Huh. Strange that Han Solo has it/keeps it. Or had it. 'Cause he's dead now. The VD didn't point out where it was from.
     
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    i think that's the point of that entry: that Han wasn't typically sentimental, but he kept this thing from his time meeting Luke and Obi-Wan and joining the Galactic Wars.
     
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    It might have just been something that could have come in handy for something else from time to time. Or wasn't keen on throwing out junk. There were a few other things in there that had been from that time and it had even changed hands.
     
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    I mean there's a reason why luke skywalkers training helmet is still lying about the falcon and why the chess game was saved.
     
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