Alien invasion,is this the shocking truth?

Its possible that there are forces in reserve but while the Republic was bigger it just lost its capital world and "its cherished fleet."

That is like if at the same time as the Pearl Harbour attack DC was nuked too.


The Republic is reeling. How many planets view it as a viable political solution.

@Maximus they can move a from Vader I just want them to build from within GFFA. Pulling in some extra-galactic threat breaks the tone of the established world.

 

to a large extent i agree with you, but the mystery of Snoke.. his motivations and the knights of Ren are annoying me to say the least.

I'm not sure i want the whole invasion thing.. but i have a weird feeling that they might be going in that direction - right or wrong.

I also was thinking about ep IX's director Colin Trevorrow.. if they are planning on going the alien species army route, then his appointment makes more sense (as it didn't make sense to me originally to be honest)

 

I think the Knights of Ren are a gaggle of Crimson guard, Inquisitor types that answer to Kylo.

As for direction a threat from the impassable wilderness of Wild Space works fine.

The introduction of aliens from another galaxy is different in tone. Also in a galaxy of thousands of worlds. Why is another galaxy needed?

Snoke is the first of an undead ancient Sith Empire horde makes more sense to me than extra galactic threat. Its seems a meaninglessness change in scope.

 

i'd be extremely happy with that.. but i'm braced for something different lol

 

I'm not as familiar with SW lore, but wouldn't a threat from the existing galaxy's Wild Space be functionally similar, within the narrative, to an extragalactic threat? In both instances we're introduced to a previously unknown threat from an "unknown" region that appears on the scene to threaten the established order, whatever that order is (Jedi/Sith, FO/Republic, etc). Is there a meaningful difference? What if it's left ambiguous, i.e. "they came from the impassable wildernesss of Wild Space, but there are whispers that their true origin is much further," something like that?

To me, there's not much difference, but I get it if conceptually "extragalactic" feels too much like a common sci fi / comic plot device that wouldn't fit here, like "parallel universe" or time travel.

Anyway, I'm in favor of Snoke being from an unknown region, somebody who mysteriously came on the scene when the empire retreated to the darker edges of the galaxy. Or at least, I prefer this to Snoke being somebody who was around but we just never heard about for some reason.

 

Its totally a flavor thing.

Something from unknown regions is out of the mists from off the map. Its mysterious. Unknown regions of Wild Space and black holes (crazy fairy tale forrest were dragons live and where hurricanes are formed on old pirate maps).

Just another Alien species (the galaxy already has tousands) from another galaxy reduces mystery and makes unknown regions empty.

There is absolutely so much inside GFFA I prefer something internal. When you kook in the past even thousands of years it is still blasters, light sabres, and hyper drives. Its a distinct flavor.

 

To me, if the alien invasion is on the table, I think that could potentially destroy sw for a llot of fans because the galaxy should be self contained.

 

IMHO, the Vong were one of the worst things of the old EU. I'm glad they killed it and I highly doubt they'll want to do something similar to it.
I feel they could still go for something that's coming from outside of the galaxy, but not exactly a Vong-like invasion - maybe Snoke if from outside and that's it.

No offense meant to the OP, but the theory feels a lot like wishful thinking, i.e. you are trying to see what you want to see.

 

I'm guessing I'll be in the minority here, but I say HELL YEAH - BRING IT ON!! I know some will like the idea of repeating the OT's "Empire vs the Rebellion" in the "First Order vs the Resistance"("things coming full circle", etc). But that alone seems lame to me. The ST needs to have it's own story, it's own vibe/feel. I LOVE the idea of throwing in a 3rd party. Let's REALLY shake things up. Let's have some non-Sith, non-Jedi Force users. Let's have weird(saying a lot when talking about the GFFA), evil, extra-galactic invaders. What happens to the Resistance and FO when they are faced with this threat? Will they unite? There's a parallel to what Luke says about the Jedi ending. I believe he means light-side-only and dark-side-only force users need to cease to exist. The way he carries out his fathers purpose of bringing balance is to bring them to the middle. Rey and - I think - Kylo will be the first "Grey Jedi", though I don't think LF plans to use that title. Likewise, the Resistance and FO need to find the middle ground to fight and defeat this invading army. Sounds great to me.

 

You don't need a threat from another galaxy to do that. There are thousands of worlds in the GFFA any hundred of them could be part of a new threat. There is no need to change the nature of the galaxy to tell more unique stories. Especially when it is simply a tired trope from other genres.

 

All indications i see are that the FO is going to initially form in the unknown regions from the remnants of the Empire. And strong indicators are that this is where Snoke is from. Add in those images McDiarmid posted of the mysterious ships. So we have a lot of data to support his invasion theory. I guess you're not a fan of this, but it seems to me that it is a distinct possibility.

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I'm about to contradict myself, or at least one of your initial points McDiarmid. It does not look like that first mysterious ship intentionally digs into the ground. I just watched the trailer again and it appears that it crashes into the ground. You can see it pitch and roll and it looks like the pilot/operator barely keeps it in control.

This would support one of the other posters point that these are Resistance fighters using whatever local craft they can find to fight the FO. The invasion theory is still viable, but those craft might just be Resistance fighters. Or maybe they are part of a planetary militia - which we know exist - which have joined forces with the Resistance, or are otherwise just trying to fight the FO.

 

If this were to happen I'd hope it would not emulate Marvel's the avengers or something similar. But if the resistance came up against great odds it would make for an interesting story as well as Luke and the Jedi returning. Whatever that might mean.

 

I am for them telling the story right. The pictures that are getting passed around are the Vong. They were a threat from another galaxy and I have rarely found a fan. They were unoriginal (as is an alien invasion plot) they were obvious cross genre rip offs (they look like vampires or D&D Yuan-Ti).

I have no problem with Imp remnant hidden in hard to teach places and finding encountering a threat or being subverted by that threat.

I also disagree that the 1st Order can't fight the Republic. They destroyed the principal system and crippled the military forces of the Republic. We don't know the real mindset of the galaxy but I think that its safe to say that there are worlds that might see the 1st Order preferable to destruction, preferable to war, or see the strength of the 1st Order as more stable than the Republic. Then you need to consider that there were 100s of Separatists worlds that wanted out of the Republic before the Galactic Civil War, were at odds with leaders of the Rebellion because lots its leaders were still in the Senate until the Death Star showed up. All that to say. The 1st Order can destabilize the Republic and make huge advances to create a new status quo. Why fail at winning a prolonged war trying to completely conquer your enemy when a decisive strike gets most of the way there.

 

You make a lot of good points. For me, simply "The First Order vs the Resistance" is "The Empire vs The Rebellion" take-2. It turns the ST into a reboot of the OT and that would be lame IMO. There has to be an X-Factor to give the ST it's own story - it's own feel/vibe. So far, in TFA, the only thing that comes close to being an X-Factor is the KOR who are about 10-15 seconds of the whole movie.

 

You mean it rhymes.

Call backs are cooked into the SW style.

But seeing it as a reboot you over look that the Resistance is a separate entity from the 1st Order. That alone changes tge dynamic. Will the 1st Order demand the Republic give up its support for the the Resistance or face continued onslaught.

Further the tone of the 1st Order is different they are a neo-Imperial group and have a level of fanatisism that the Empire lacked. They strike me as a cult more than a political group. That changes the dynamic. They are the next generation they are connected. I think you will see more of those x factors.

 

You know what would be scarier? If snoke is utilizing one of sidious's contingency orders for the clones but for the entire galaxy to maintain order. It's not about overtaking or money, it's about