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SPECULATION Alternate "cyborg" theory

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by The_Coon, Oct 4, 2014.

  1. HansOle

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    OMG............. the cyborg is no other than BOBA FETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    hehe well to be honnest (I don't know a blody thing about this) Lucas has stated that there will be a charecter returning that can remember the clone wars. So maybe Boba....... who knows..............JJ Knows.
     
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    It may be Boba, who may need cybernetic parts after being in the Sarlacc for a while, but that would imply that Temuara Morrison would be in the film. Perhaps he is but not announced.
     
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    Come on guys, Boba Fett is dead - slowly digested over a thousand years!

    I don't get what all the fuss is about there being a cyborg in Episode VII, there have always been cyborgs in Star Wars. Darth Vader was a major cyborg, so was Luke Skywalker after The Empire Strikes Back (plus tons of different examples from the Star Wars Prequels). See-Threepio does "human-cyborg relations" whatever that means. Its been established that they can build high quality prosthetics that look and act perfectly real. Unless they are as maimed and inhuman as Darth Vader was, a cyborg would just look like a normal person. General Reikann could of been a cyborg for all we know!
     
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    George Lucas has said recently that Boba Fett managed to survive falling in the Sarlacc.
     
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    Well I don't know about the canonicity of George Lucas's quotes, but if Boba Fett appears in the Sequels after having appeared in both of the previous two trilogies (one of which where he definitely did not belong) it would be the ultimate fan panda ring. Because even if he did somehow survive the all-mighty Sarlac from which no one can escape, why would he be relevent to the plot of Star Wars again? Its just crazy.
     
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    Because what Lucas speaks into existance happens. He is the God of the Star Wars galaxy.
     
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    I wasn't arguing that quotes from him weren't canon, I was arguing that we shouldn't see Boba Fett in the Sequel trilogy. But now I am arguing that his quotes aren't canon, also - what gives him the right to be the final interpretation of the films, especially when he doesnt seem to understand them? He didn't create the Original Trilogy alone, and he wasn't the most important person to work on it neither. Generally, filmmakers let the audience interpret films for themselves, because a film as a piece of artwork should be able to stand on its own, without any outside information.
     
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    I know and I agree. I was just being funny.
     
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    Oh shoot
     
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    And Lucas said, "Let there be Vader!" And there was Vader.
     
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    The more I contemplate the rumored cyborg, the more I start thinking of A New Dawn's Vidian. Although it can't be Vidian, I believe they go into the description of his enhancements for a reason.

    In order to incorporate the overall saga's story, it makes sense to me that The Emperor found a way to "cheat death" by soul transfer, similarly to the Dark Empire story. Instead of cloning himself, He goes back to Tenbrous's and Plagueis's idea to transfer themselves into "The Chosen One", and secretly clones Anakin. We all know the Emperor wanted Luke to replace Vader, but not to end up replacing himself as the master Sith but to have the son of the chosen one to "transfer" into, because he was so powerful in the Force, because of his or Anakin's midi-chlorian levels. It was originally Tenebrous who intended to do this, to replace the rule of two with a master Sith that would live forever by replacing the physical being with clones. I thought that it may have been Luke that is cloned, but it to close to the Heir to the Empire trilogy of novels, and thought Anakin was more likely. Now this clone would be unrecognizable because of all the cyborg enhanced technology which would boost all senses and make him near indestructable much like Vidian in A New Dawn.

    I know if I were making this movie this is the route I'd go, without having to make up some new villain that doesn't mesh with the entire Star Wars story.
     
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    Thanks for bringing us back on-topic. :)
     
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    I don't see why it has to incorporate the overall saga's story. Just because to the audience, Star Wars is some epic thing, doesn't mean the creators have to think that too - it means the opposite. The story of the Prequels failed because they put too much emphasis on Darth Vader. The audience thinks Darth Vader is important, because he was awesome in the Original Trilogy and pretty much the main bad guy, but then George Lucas let that sentiment creep into his writing, and Darth Vader got portrayed as way more important than he actually was. Just looking at the context of the Original Trilogy, Darth Vader was important because he was seduced by the Emperor to the dark side of the Force, so that the Emperor could make him kill all of the Jedi knights in the first half of his evil plan to take over the Galactic Empire. In the actual movies, he is just this carry-over from an older age, nobody takes him seriously, and he is pretty much just like an SS officer who goes in with the troops and smashes things up to show people that the Emperor means business. Then in Return of the Jedi at the thematic climax, he throws the Emperor down and thing and kills him, proving Luke Skywalker right that he could change back to good. In the Prequels he's treated like space Jesus, the virgin birth thing, and the entire trilogy is focused on getting Vader into the suit.

    Star Wars is adventure movies, and as long as the Sequels are fun adventures, and good films, with lovable characters, romance, and an overarching theme culminating in a satisfying climax, I don't care if the villain is some Darth Tenbrus cyborg clone of doom from ancient times who learned to cheat death and is the whole reason the other two trilogies happened. Or whatever, I'm not really sure who Tenbrous is (and I am pretty familiar with the EU, unlike the majority of the audience who will be seeing these movies).
     
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    Maybe where Luke's hand from Bespin comes in if old rumor is true. Ancient Evil in clone Luke vs Good Luke. Could explain Daisy's finding Luke only it's the posessed clone and she doesn't realize it.
     
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    Very Heir to the Empire trilogy lol
    Luuke - "Luke, I am your clone!"
     
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    yea but not the horrible "Luuke". I like Emperor Palpaluke!
     
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    I always thought that double vowel crap was stupid.
     
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    Darth Stuupid
     
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    The reason I thought of Anakin was because Palpatine had Anakin on the table, turning him into Vader and if he wanted is DNA for cloning he could of got it then. And also you wouldn't need to bring back Hayden Christiansen because he would be unrecognizable and voice altered.
    The picture of the "Inquisitor" cyborg holding Vader's Helmet, I could see how Palpatine in Anakin's cloned cyborg changed body would stare at that, mocking it, being more than what he wanted Vader to be.
     
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